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Old 08-27-2008, 12:15 PM
 
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I started the topic after reading the Post Gazette story on Pittsburgh's fifth place location on this not so great national ranking. ( Pittsburgh 5th poorest big city, census shows )
The one thing the article mentioned that has always fascinated me is the great discrepancy between city neighborhoods. The relative good economic times being felt in the eastern sections as compared to the negative economic conditions of the Hill District or parts of the North Side to mention a few.
For people living in areas such as Shady side and Squirrel Hill. What negative changes have you noticed that might be associated with this so called city wide 'poor house' ?
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:24 PM
 
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Crime and murder increase as poverty increases. These are changes noticed related to poverty. What don't you understand?
The article and the thread were about poverty rates, not crime. I'm not sure why the topic switched to crime. Just wondering.
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:26 PM
 
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The P-G article was about the median household income, not the poverty level. Pittsburgh's poverty rate does not place it in the top ten. Our median household income is relatively low, so it's two different things, according to the census. From the report, we're not too far off from the average income for this part of the country.

In answer to Rock Lobster's question: as a Shadyside resident, I've seen more good than bad in the last few years. I've seen the old projects in East Liberty torn down and those people moving into more humane and mixed income communnities where everyone takes pride in where they live. I've seen East Liberty begin to morph into a more vibrant area for people who live there and for people from around the city. I've seen incredible development from Oakland to Point Breeze, housing appreciating very well, and lots of plans for new housing and commercial development. I also still see deep pockets of poverty in places like Larimer and Homewood, where a lot of good people are trying to get a handle on things and try to piggyback off the development in nearby East Liberty.
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:42 PM
 
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Geeo.
My observations would be the same as your's with me being a shopper and user of the East End. At the very least I think we have a very dynamic situation going on with huge peaks and valley's within the economic ranks of our very own city. And it continues to change rapidly in some sections.
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:45 PM
 
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I stand corrected.
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Old 08-27-2008, 05:34 PM
 
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Say what you want, but when you tear down projects and give Section 8 vouchers so those people can live in other neighborhoods, all you do is spread the problem. Those people will still be out of work. This area needs JOBS, pure and simple.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:31 AM
 
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I live in the East End, and I've seen signs of growth in the last few years. I can't say I can identify anything happening in or near my neighborhood that indicates more poverty than was there before I moved to Pittsburgh.
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:49 AM
 
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There is a lady always standing in front of Panera in Squirrel Hill with a sign. It makes me want to away into Cranberry.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, the Iron City!!!
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I live in Mount Oliver.... the signs are everywhere... abandoned downtown area... thugs on the streets at night.... crazies living in, seemingly, every apartment building....
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Old 09-01-2008, 04:23 AM
 
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say what you want, but when you tear down projects and give section 8 vouchers so those people can live in other neighborhoods, all you do is spread the problem. Those people will still be out of work. This area needs jobs, pure and simple.

co-sign.
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