08-04-2008, 03:19 PM
Location: Pittsburgh, the Iron City!!!
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So, the diehard Cowboys fan in me sees this whole Brett Favre thing going on, and is sickened by the positions both sides have taken... the Packers, for being so vehement about not wanting him back, and brett, for wanting an immense amount of money to NOT play... although, I can understand his side, as well...
But, as storied a franchise as Green Bay is, what if Favre had been a Steeler all these years?.... It is my studied opinion that Bradshaw would have been able to play first string as long as he could not let the colostomy bag burst onfield.... one thing, is the Steelers seem to worship "tradition" and respect those who helped 'em make it.... Bleier, Harris, Bradshaw. . . . and now, Big Ben...
If Favre HAD been a Steeler,. how do you think this whole ordeal might have played out differently, if at all?.....
I'm really curious to see where this thread goes, too.....
08-04-2008, 03:48 PM
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I tell you 1 thing, the steelers wasn't going to offer anybody including Brett Farve 35 million dollars to stay retired. So at the end of the day imho, they would have ended up trading Brett Farve. I don't even think Brett Farve would have played that many years for the steelers like he did with the packers, because they are too cheap to pay anybody, especially high caliber players like Brett Farve.
08-04-2008, 07:32 PM
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Look what they did to Franco, it's business. Favre is a "jagoff", for the last 3-4 years he's always toyed with retirement and leaves the Packer management hanging as to how to draft. Last year he says he retires, they go with the new guy. Now he wants to come back. Sorry, time to move on. I'd trade him to a lousy team. And I'd do the same to Bradshaw. No player is bigger than the game.
08-04-2008, 07:47 PM
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Steelers would've traded him and drafted a young QB.
08-05-2008, 06:04 AM
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I tell you 1 thing, the steelers wasn't going to offer anybody including Brett Farve 35 million dollars to stay retired. So at the end of the day imho, they would have ended up trading Brett Farve. I don't even think Brett Farve would have played that many years for the steelers like he did with the packers, because they are too cheap to pay anybody, especially high caliber players like Brett Farve.
People are still spouting bull**** about the Rooney's being cheap. Were they cheap when they signed Big Ben? How about Troy? The fact is, under a salary cap, there is a limit to what you can spend. Hard decisions have to be made, and good players have to be allowed to walk. The Steelers have done a good job making these decisions, which is why they have been the NFL's most successful franchise since they rose out of the 40 year slumber in 1972. The Patriots have let several big names walk in recent years, because they understand how the cap works. Teams who do what the 49ers did, playing around with the cap to try to keep everybody, eventually end up in cap hell. The 49ers are awful now. The Steelers haven't seen a 12 loss season since 1969. I think the Rooneys know what they're doing.
08-06-2008, 07:18 AM
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Teams who do what the 49ers did, playing around with the cap to try to keep everybody, eventually end up in cap hell. The 49ers are awful now. The Steelers haven't seen a 12 loss season since 1969. I think the Rooneys know what they're doing.
The 49ers are bad because of their change in management (they got rid of their last winning coach, steve murucci). Don't blame it on the cap. Good management finds a way to win. Just look at the Redskins, they have paid more than almost every team over the last five years, and what has it got them? A few playoff appearances, but mostly mediocrity.
08-06-2008, 09:18 AM
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Good cap management is part of the game. Teams that try to get around the cap eventually fail. Teams that make the hard choices, and do it correctly tend to be successful long term.
01-30-2009, 10:36 PM
Location: Philadelphia
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he would have been bad, because the Steelers are bad
01-31-2009, 08:02 AM
Location: southwestern PA
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he would have been bad, because the Steelers are bad
Obviously someone does not know who's in the Super Bowl tomorrow....
01-31-2009, 08:25 AM
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The worst thing they did was hold on to Kordell "Hall of Fame" Stewart at QB, WAY TOO LONG.
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Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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