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Old 05-02-2010, 08:25 AM
 
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How did I miss this thread? I've been to pretty much all of the places mentioned, and have photos of them all. Physically, I've always seen Hagerstown as sort of a cross between Pittsburgh and Baltimore. You can see elements of both cities in Hagerstown's built environment. Cumberland is more Pittsburgh-ish than Hagerstown to me. Wheeling is very Pittsburgh-ish, but with certain Virginia elements. Johnstown feels much more like Pittsburgh than Altoona does. I haven't spent enough time in any of those places to be able to compare their temperment to Pittsburgh's. Pittsburgh's temperment is a strange blend, as many of you well know. Pittsburgh is outwardly friendly, yet slow to truly embrace outsiders. The one thing that usually surprises outsiders is how thin skinned we are. There is zero tolerance here for any type of real or perceived slights towards the city. I don't know of any other place quite like that. The level of venom that can be aimed at offenders is truly amazing.
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:46 AM
 
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How did I miss this thread? I've been to pretty much all of the places mentioned, and have photos of them all. Physically, I've always seen Hagerstown as sort of a cross between Pittsburgh and Baltimore. You can see elements of both cities in Hagerstown's built environment.
Come to think of it, so true!

I actually really liked the 'feel' of Hagerstown a lot. If it were just able to attract interesting people to it...and it has all the right ingredients to do so. Seems like that should be a place that artists and such would be heavily attracted to.

Much moreso than any other city in that entire region....in my opinion anyways.
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Old 05-02-2010, 12:00 PM
 
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Come to think of it, so true!

I actually really liked the 'feel' of Hagerstown a lot. If it were just able to attract interesting people to it...and it has all the right ingredients to do so. Seems like that should be a place that artists and such would be heavily attracted to.

Much moreso than any other city in that entire region....in my opinion anyways.
I like Hagerstown a lot myself. It's a bit sleepy, but not at all rundown. It's probably just a bit too far outside of DC to really benefit big time from folks trying to escape the high cost of housing in the DC market. Both Hagerstown, and Cumberland, as well as Uniontown, would really benefit from closer ties between DC and Pittsburgh. I always thought that the highway down through the Mid Mon Valley should connect to I-68 near Cumberland instead of in W. Virginia. This would provide for a direct route to DC that bypassed the Turnpike, and would be a boon for all of the cities along the way.

Here are some pics from Hagerstown.

http://www.pbase.com/step2me/hagerstown
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Old 08-15-2010, 08:32 PM
 
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I like Hagerstown a lot myself. It's a bit sleepy, but not at all rundown. It's probably just a bit too far outside of DC to really benefit big time from folks trying to escape the high cost of housing in the DC market. Both Hagerstown, and Cumberland, as well as Uniontown, would really benefit from closer ties between DC and Pittsburgh. I always thought that the highway down through the Mid Mon Valley should connect to I-68 near Cumberland instead of in W. Virginia. This would provide for a direct route to DC that bypassed the Turnpike, and would be a boon for all of the cities along the way.

Here are some pics from Hagerstown.

Hagerstown, Maryland Photo Gallery by step2me at pbase.com
Excellent pics - I agree, this thread really went under the radar! There are some who really don't think Hagerstown looks like Pittsburgh but still think Hagerstown has prominent mountain vistas. I would think that would actually make Hagerstown look more like Pittsburgh. I don't think there is a feature as dominant in Hagerstown as Mt. Washington is in Pittsburgh. Neighborhoods like the Southside Flats (minus the waterfront), the West End, and parts of Duquesne Heights bear strong resemblance to Hagerstown but the elevations created by Mount Washington and adjacent cliffs are something that just aren't present in Hagerstown.

And keep in mind, Pittsburgh is exponentially larger than Hagerstown. Brunswick, MD and the railroad hub area of Hagerstown compare favorably to Pittsburgh (especially because of Brunswick's slopes) but you could combine both of those cities and still only comprise a fraction of Pittsburgh. Certainly Hagerstown looks like an older city because it never went through a period of industrial decline and urban renewal where much of its architecture would be replaced by 1970s and 80s cheese like Pittsburgh would. I think Cumberland, MD with its elevated interstate and similar history of industrial decline and railroad dependency would also work in concert with Hagerstown and Brunswick to give a similar characterization of Pittsburgh. But with Pittsburgh being at the confluence of three navigable rivers and having a legacy of a massive steel industry, it just contains too many factors that make it a unique city (once the 8th largest in the country), and easy to see why there was no way Hagerstown could have ever grown that large and distinct.
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:25 AM
 
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Hagerstown look like Pittsburgh ???
Tall buildings - traffic congestion - "dahntahn area" - Mt. Washington - museums - sports teams & stadiums - colleges - Super Bowl trophies - Stanley Cup trophies - Professional Baseball team ( that last one is questionable ) first rate hospitals - worlds shortest subway - casino - three rivers - a useless, overpriced tunnel under a river - soon to be highest parking rates in the country - alcoholic monkeys
( wait - that's a small town in Thailand, not the Burg' ) ) crooked politicians &
corruption - crime - shootings......
there may be some crime, shootings, corruption & drunk monkeys, but not much of the rest remotely reminds me of the Burg'......
Maybe if you are wearing shades, on drugs & ride through Hagerstown real fast at night during a thunder storm & a heavy down pour in the back of a van with no windows & a bag over your head....
I live near Pittsburgh -I've been to Hagerstown many times & nothing there reminds me of Pittsburgh.....
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Old 11-06-2010, 07:24 PM
 
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I like Hagerstown a lot myself. It's a bit sleepy, but not at all rundown. It's probably just a bit too far outside of DC to really benefit big time from folks trying to escape the high cost of housing in the DC market. Both Hagerstown, and Cumberland, as well as Uniontown, would really benefit from closer ties between DC and Pittsburgh. I always thought that the highway down through the Mid Mon Valley should connect to I-68 near Cumberland instead of in W. Virginia. This would provide for a direct route to DC that bypassed the Turnpike, and would be a boon for all of the cities along the way.

Here are some pics from Hagerstown.

Hagerstown, Maryland Photo Gallery by step2me at pbase.com
Nice photos! I've seen many of your photos on skyscraper forums as well.

What's your take on Frederick, MD?
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Old 11-07-2010, 04:51 PM
 
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I like Frederick a lot, but it's really being overrun with people from DC.
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Old 11-30-2010, 10:36 PM
 
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And keep in mind, Pittsburgh is exponentially larger than Hagerstown. Brunswick, MD and the railroad hub area of Hagerstown compare favorably to Pittsburgh (especially because of Brunswick's slopes) but you could combine both of those cities and still only comprise a fraction of Pittsburgh.
True about Hagerstown being significantly smaller.

I am a bit curious about Brunswick from this post and others. It seems even significantly smaller than Hagerstown even. Yet, it seems it makes a lot of references nontheless. Curious as to why. (Just to learn more about it, for no other reason).
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Old 08-01-2021, 02:39 PM
 
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I loved this comparison thread! 11 years ago, already....but still an interesting read.
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Old 08-01-2021, 03:42 PM
 
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I loved this comparison thread! 11 years ago, already....but still an interesting read.
Small Pittsburgh for sure is Wheeling,WV. Not sure about Hagerstown. Birmingham is probably the most similar city to Pittsburgh as far as topography and size and feel.

Great article on Birmingham and the article photo could be from Perry hilltop

https://suburbanturmoil.com/things-t...ma/2021/04/30/
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