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Old 09-04-2018, 06:13 AM
 
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Frick at Somerset is, to my knowledge, the only modern, suburban style subdivision within city limits. It’s one of the least walkable parts of the city and has a middling K-8 zoned school (Minadeo), yet commands some of the highest real-estate prices in the region.

https://www.redfin.com/PA/Pittsburgh...m_content=link

The same money buys a comparable or nicer home in walkable city neighborhoods like Squirrell Hill, Shadyside, Highland Park or Friendship, or suburbs with acclaimed school districts like Mt Lebanon and Fox Chapel. Is the SOLE appeal new construction in city limits?
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Old 09-04-2018, 07:01 AM
 
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Is the SOLE appeal new construction in city limits?

Given the high premium i see people will pay for shoddy new construction townhouses in my neighborhood & also work with a few people who won’t even consider an older home when house hunting.
It’s bizarre thinking for sure, but do believe it is the primary reason.
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Old 09-04-2018, 08:14 AM
 
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There is another new sub-urban looking development in New Homestead, which is within the city limits, I believe. I saw it on Google maps and it's hard to believe it's within city limits. At least Summerset is a dense development, but the New Homestead one is all spread out.

I think Summerset is attractive because it's all new construction with single family homes, townhouses and apartments, so a little something for everyone.
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Old 09-04-2018, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Pixburgh
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I don't understand a lot of peoples tastes. Just because you or i dont like it (and I hate it)..
Some people pay a lot for things that I can't fathom. But what can you do, everyone doesn't need to bend to my will.

For instance when these 'old house, walkability' loving people have kids and move to the suburbs why do they buy in subdivisions?
Granted there is good new construction, its not all bad..

But there are walkable towns , with good old housing stock, that desperately need an influx of young people. Downtown Irwin, Trafford for instance already have the good school district and are very cheap compared to the rest of the districts(subdivisions).
Other places that are relatively convenient to a lot of places like Jeannette, a dozen people with a vision could turn the entire little city around. You can get a livable old victorian well under 100k, buy a giant renovated bar/restaurant that spans half a city block for 140k. No one cares. /shrug

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Old 09-04-2018, 09:53 AM
 
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I don't understand a lot of peoples tastes. Just because you or i dont like it (and I hate it)..
Some people pay a lot for things that I can't fathom. But what can you do, everyone doesn't need to bend to my will.

For instance when these 'old house, walkability' loving people have kids and move to the suburbs why do they buy in subdivisions?
Granted there is good new construction, its not all bad..

But there are walkable towns , with good old housing stock, that desperately need an influx of young people. Downtown Irwin, Trafford for instance already have the good school district and are very cheap compared to the rest of the districts(subdivisions).
Other places that are relatively convenient to a lot of places like Jeannette, a dozen people with a vision could turn the entire little city around. You can get a livable old victorian well under 100k, buy a giant renovated bar/restaurant that spans half a city block for 140k. No one cares. /shrug
new housing and a self selected group of neighbors that are all around your same age and financial position. this is much different than an older established neighborhood that has a huge range of ages, incomes, etc. some people like the former. this applies to the somerset development as well. the rich doctor doesn't have to interact with the "poors". for some people, an old walk able neighborhood is a negative.
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Old 09-04-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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new housing and a self selected group of neighbors that are all around your same age and financial position. this is much different than an older established neighborhood that has a huge range of ages, incomes, etc. some people like the former. this applies to the somerset development as well. the rich doctor doesn't have to interact with the "poors". for some people, an old walk able neighborhood is a negative.
Wow. You’re probably right. I grew up in New York, where, owing to rent-control and rent-stabilization, even the wealthiest city neighborhoods are actually mixed income, so I never really think of city-dwellers as “live away from the poors” elitists. That probably is a big part of the appeal of Frick at Somerset. I know they actually pay the Pittsburgh police department for extra patrols. That would never happen in an organic city neighborhood.
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Old 09-04-2018, 10:02 AM
 
Location: O'Hara Twp.
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There is another new sub-urban looking development in New Homestead, which is within the city limits, I believe. I saw it on Google maps and it's hard to believe it's within city limits. At least Summerset is a dense development, but the New Homestead one is all spread out.

I think Summerset is attractive because it's all new construction with single family homes, townhouses and apartments, so a little something for everyone.

Casa Bill. Unbelievable how many kids are there. The vast majority of them go to the Catholic School in Munhall. I think to get in the door these days you got to spend about 450,000.


Sumerset at Frick Park is very expensive. Very well done. The houses are beautiful. Has a community pool. Always see lots of people walking. The community is walkable but you aren't walking to anything other than around the community.
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Old 09-04-2018, 10:15 AM
 
Location: O'Hara Twp.
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Frick at Somerset is, to my knowledge, the only modern, suburban style subdivision within city limits. It’s one of the least walkable parts of the city and has a middling K-8 zoned school (Minadeo), yet commands some of the highest real-estate prices in the region.

https://www.redfin.com/PA/Pittsburgh...m_content=link

The same money buys a comparable or nicer home in walkable city neighborhoods like Squirrell Hill, Shadyside, Highland Park or Friendship, or suburbs with acclaimed school districts like Mt Lebanon and Fox Chapel. Is the SOLE appeal new construction in city limits?

Contingent.
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Old 09-04-2018, 12:36 PM
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Must be the desire to live atop a mountain of industrial waste, ohh and the drone of the parkway and lovely exhaust smell must be endearing in some way.
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Old 09-04-2018, 12:43 PM
 
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Living on an old slag heap doesn't seem very smart.
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