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My arguement is this aerospace engineer is not lying to the people--he is bringing in facts and his own personal observation of contrails aka chemtrails.
I'm not arguing with him. I'm arguing with you. If you want to use his argument, then just do so. If he has provided solid evidence, then just use it. It seems to me that you either do not believe him yourself, or do not understand what he is even saying.
But don't keep trying to run away from the discussion yourself.
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Originally Posted by UpNort
I stated my personal observation and you tryed to convince me and make me appear that I don't know what's what in the sky in my area.
You don't know what's in the sky in your area. We've established that. You keep calling what is there (contrails) something completely different ("chemtrails") for apparently no good reason.
I did already point you to a website that shows you exactly what the commercial traffic over the United States actually looks like. So you no longer have any excuse to pretend that that your local skies are miraculously a place jets don't fly over. That seemed to cool your jets for a while, and you still haven't directly responded to it.
So again... I have provided the completely ordinary explanation for what you've seen. It's your turn to now make an argument that they are something different.
Why are you afraid to even try?
Last edited by HistorianDude; 06-21-2010 at 03:58 PM..
Well, your can argue the content of any presented video with the presenter of same.
Not if I can't open the video. But the real point I am making here appears lost on you.
I assure you, it's not lost on UpNort.
UpNort does not even actually understand the beliefs she holds. She is unable to even cogently express what she believes and why she believes it. All she can do is point to other people's videos (those that I have been able to open) that are so spectacular bad as to be comedic.
And that is what I have been demonstrating so clearly these past several days. Not just that there is no real evidence for "chemtrails," but that the people who are so insistent in claiming there are really do not even understand their own reasons for believing in the first place.
First, you should read the OP and the link ... so that you have a clue about the subject.
Second ... the "people" do not initiate a coup ... that would be a revolution. Coups reference actions from within the gov't structure .. generally from high ranking military ... and or intelligence.
I wasn't talking about the people initiating or orchestrating a coup, I was talking about the people calling for a coup. Big difference. Most of the people you hear calling for a coup are toothless rednecks who consider high school higher education.
I would fight against any attempted coup to the fullest of my ability even though I disagree with the current president on most issues. NOT an acceptable way to gain power in the United States.
I would fight against any attempted coup to the fullest of my ability even though I disagree with the current president on most issues. NOT an acceptable way to gain power in the United States.
You would fight how ? Not an acceptable way ? How about a Bolshevik style rebellion ala 21st century ? Acceptable ? The corruption of the western world is sooo bad , and the system is sooo unsustainable . You wont be be seeing what is known as Democracy deciding much of anything once real work on cleaning up the mess we call gubment begins. People will do as they are told as a matter of necessity. Thats the way it works when kingdoms screw up badly enough . The only template left unused is the one laid down by the early church.
You would fight how ? Not an acceptable way ? How about a Bolshevik style rebellion ala 21st century ? Acceptable ? The corruption of the western world is sooo bad , and the system is sooo unsustainable . You wont be be seeing what is known as Democracy deciding much of anything once real work on cleaning up the mess we call gubment begins. People will do as they are told as a matter of necessity. Thats the way it works when kingdoms screw up badly enough . The only template left unused is the one laid down by the early church.
Not sure I understand. People will do as they are told? Who will? And told be whom? Let's say some armed revolution is successful. What exactly will be the new constitution? Who exactly will enforce it? What is to stop said people from forming some sort of dictatorship? What will stop the violence? I suggest an attempt to reform the government from the existing status quo, rather than by arms. How would I fight? They same way you would. With my guns, from my house.
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