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I had my abortion at Planned Parenthood and ultrasound was not performed.
It depends on the clinic. You posted a page from a specific PP clinic. Some have ultrasound facilities for abortions and some do not. Some perform later term abortions than others... and just because it says it can be included in the fee, does not mean it is performed for every procedure. After 12 weeks is when they will generally use an ultrasound. Since that clinic performs them up to 14.6 weeks, they will use the ultrasound to determine gestational age when a client is too close to the cutoff.
No, it IS included in their fee. As I said, performing an u/s as part of an abortion procedure is routinely recommended and considered the standard practice in the US. Yes, some clinics don't perform them. No, they are not typically mandated by law (although in MANY states they are). This thread has become an exercise in futility. I would venture to guess that the vast majority of abortions performed in the US also include an ultrasound as well, and that is the only point I was trying to make. People opposed to this law were incorrectly stating that this would be an additional financial burden for the woman. All I stated was that in most cases, an ultrasound is already being performed.
No, it IS included in their fee. As I said, performing an u/s as part of an abortion procedure is routinely recommended and considered the standard practice in the US. Yes, some clinics don't perform them. No, they are not typically mandated by law (although in MANY states they are). This thread has become an exercise in futility. I would venture to guess that the vast majority of abortions performed in the US also include an ultrasound as well, and that is the only point I was trying to make. People opposed to this law were incorrectly stating that this would be an additional financial burden for the woman. All I stated was that in most cases, an ultrasound is already being performed.
That is simply not the case. It is included in their fee if necessary And that only applies to the NE Ohio clinic. For example, take a look at a different PP clinic and how they explain it:
During your visit, you may be given the following:
The reason it states "may be given" is due to the fact that ultrasounds are performed only for the later term abortions.
If you wish to amend your statement to read that in most cases after, say, 10 weeks, ultrasound is performed, I would agree with you.
Ultrasound is not routinely performed in cases prior to 10 weeks. You are "venturing to guess", I am speaking from personal experience, as a person who had an abortion, and a person who volunteered for quite some time at a clinic.
By the end of this discussion we will have provided you with every conceivable web site in regard to abortion procedure, and you are still going to be disagreeing. I give up.
Oh, and for what it's worth, I am an RN and a Midwife.
Exactly. They are describing what MAY be included in a variety of different procedures. It does not apply to all abortions performed there. The clinic I went to did not perform them prior to 10 weeks.
Well if you are trying to take votes away from the tea party favorite this didn't help his case. Rubio is the favorite right now which is why Crist is running as an independent.
No, the majority of Tea Party members like myself, think it is a woman's right to do as she wishes with her body.
I'm pretty conservative, except for issues of woman's rights and drug prohibition. Although I really think it was the progressives that brought drug prohibitions, so maybe I am conservative on drug prohibition??? Now I'm confused.
I would have to agree with Crist on this for two reasons.
The first one would be that the vast majority of women who get abortions go through a process which I am sure isn't easy. They have to make a very tough decision and this would not help the situation. Remember, many abortions have to do with the health of the mother, the fetus, or other serious reasons. Not just oops I made a booboo. Why put those women through that?\
Umm...why put women through that? Because they're on the precipice of killing their own child!
The reason it states "may be given" is due to the fact that ultrasounds are performed only for the later term abortions.
If you wish to amend your statement to read that in most cases after, say, 10 weeks, ultrasound is performed, I would agree with you.
Ultrasound is not routinely performed in cases prior to 10 weeks. You are "venturing to guess", I am speaking from personal experience, as a person who had an abortion, and a person who volunteered for quite some time at a clinic.
So your clinic didn't routinely perform u/s services. I respect that you have personal experience, but that makes you an expert on the practices of that particular clinic, not the practices of every clinic in the US. I stand by my opinion.
By the end of this discussion we will have provided you with every conceivable web site in regard to abortion procedure, and you are still going to be disagreeing. I give up.
Oh, and for what it's worth, I am an RN and a Midwife.
None of the links you provided furthered your position. We will not agree on this. I don't agree with abortion, but I also don't feel it's the government's role to dictate laws regarding women's reproductive health. I'll just leave it there.
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