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Are you really this thick or is it just part of your online persona?
No, I'm not "thick" and that's a personal attack against the TOS.
Only really thick people can't figure out that those against a woman's right to choose are ONLY interested in controlling women. They do NOT care about the actual abortion or they would be against ALL abortions.
YOU think that if a woman has consensual sex than she shouldn't have the right to choose abortion.....BUT if she is raped ...you feel abortion is OK which NEGATES your reason for being against abortion.
No, I'm not "thick" and that's a personal attack against the TOS.
Only really thick people can't figure out that those against a woman's right to choose are ONLY interested in controlling women. They do NOT care about the actual abortion or they would be against ALL abortions.
YOU think that if a woman has consensual sex than she shouldn't have the right to choose abortion.....BUT if she is raped ...you feel abortion is OK which NEGATES your reason for being against abortion.
Presume much?
All I said was, in the case of rape, the bill doesn't require that the woman view the ultra-sound.
Prior to that, the only other post I've made in this thread was to point out that state law already requires 2nd and 3rd trimester abortion-seekers view the sonogram.
FTR, BTW, it wasn;t an attack. It was a question.
You answered it (with that reply).
I definitely think he did make a politically astute decision! Getting an abortion is ultimately the woman's decision, plain and simple. Having to pay for an additional ultrasound is completely unnecessary. Did the people pushing this bill think that maybe having the woman view the fetus would make her think twice about removing something unwanted? I don't know. But I do know that I completely agree with Crist's ruling on this one.
I definitely think he did make a politically astute decision! Getting an abortion is ultimately the woman's decision, plain and simple. Having to pay for an additional ultrasound is completely unnecessary. Did the people pushing this bill think that maybe having the woman view the fetus would make her think twice about removing something unwanted? I don't know. But I do know that I completely agree with Crist's ruling on this one.
*That* was my main problem with the bill.
They already get an ultra-sound, anyway.
The law already shows 2nd and 3rd trimesters the film.
Why *not* 1st trimester?
*That* was my main problem with the bill.
They already get an ultra-sound, anyway.
The law already shows 2nd and 3rd trimesters the film.
Why *not* 1st trimester?
I did read in the article that Floridians seeking an abortion in the 2nd or 3rd trimester are required to view an ultrasound. Personally, I don't think they should be required to pay for an ultrasound at all, so I have a problem with that law as well. But who am I...
Abortion is abortion....it doesn't change because the pregnancy was caused by rape.
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Originally Posted by hortysir
The woman had no choice in the pregnancy.......
Are you really this thick or is it just part of your online persona?
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Originally Posted by Who?Me?!
No, I'm not "thick" and that's a personal attack against the TOS.
Only really thick people can't figure out that those against a woman's right to choose are ONLY interested in controlling women. They do NOT care about the actual abortion or they would be against ALL abortions.
YOU think that if a woman has consensual sex than she shouldn't have the right to choose abortion.....BUT if she is raped ...you feel abortion is OK which NEGATES your reason for being against abortion.
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Originally Posted by hortysir
Presume much?
All I said was, in the case of rape, the bill doesn't require that the woman view the ultra-sound.
Prior to that, the only other post I've made in this thread was to point out that state law already requires 2nd and 3rd trimester abortion-seekers view the sonogram.
FTR, BTW, it wasn;t an attack. It was a question.
You answered it (with that reply).
"All you said" is posted above.
ou asked a question.
I answered.
You came out with an insult.
It's all there.
You can only insult because you have no answer nor any defense for those who very OBVIOUSLY ONLY want to control women and really don't care about the fetus.
The man who impregnated the woman should be forced to watch a video of the abortion procedure. Perhaps, they will stop performing the act that may result in pregnancy.
PLUS ONE.
I agree. Men sit here running their mouths about female reproduction without suffering at all. Better yet, why not make men sit there and watch the abortion procedure?
Seriously? Yeah, heaven forbid we adhere to international standards and peer-reviewed science.
Are you kidding me?????????? Is this a joke?
The United States leads the world in medical advances. Why the F do you think people come from all over the world to have OUR physicians perform medical procedures in OUR hospitals using the latest and BEST technology??? Would you prefer that we 'dumb down' our medical procedures to match those in third world countries? WOW, I thought it was obvious why your international links don't adhere to the same high standards that we do in the US, but I guess I overestimated your intellectual reasoning ability. I'm speechless.
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Mind-reader?
