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Old 06-15-2010, 07:12 PM
 
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Where IS that little creep?
And I was wondering where that creepy Biden is hiding out these days. And No I don't mean Bin Laden, I mean our current VP Joe Biden.
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Old 06-15-2010, 07:12 PM
 
Location: On Top
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<snip>If anyone or any agency tells you there is a quick fix for this - do not believe them.
If anyone or any agency tells you things will be OK - do not believe them.
They just do not want to deal with public panic.
I agree yet the right wingnuts expect the president to pull a rabbit out of a hat.
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Old 06-15-2010, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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There are now reports circulating the web about the BP well casing and bore being compromised.
Of course this is NOT in MSM.

BP official speaking ANONYMOUSLY – “We discovered things that were broken in the sub-surface” – Game Over? | FREE PRESS INTERNATIONAL
Guest Post: BP Official Admits to Damage BENEATH THE SEA FLOOR « naked capitalism
Senator Nelson: The BP Well May Have Lost Structural Integrity Beneath the Sea Floor | zero hedge
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Old 06-16-2010, 08:30 PM
 
Location: PRC
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From what I have read too, there is no lined drilling hole/pipe/casing now. It has been destroyed in one of the initial explosions and there is nothing to 'cap' - even if they could. I think it is past that now, it seems.

This guy has a good perspective and he says that the responsibility lies with all of us.

We are such jerks(my words) to believe what mega-rich corporation and governments tell us when all they want is more and more money, profit and their greed and ours has become the downfall of all humanity.

Most of us assume that if we do not actively support something then that is the same as being against it. But this is not the case. For example by investing in 'green electricity' produced by large electricity companies we think we are supporting a worthy cause. However, the money probably still goes into the bank account and we are 'trusting' that company to use it for green energy production. Can they be trusted with our money?

It is all a salve for our consciences, but we have made our own bed, now we must lie in it.

I have to say, that it was bound to happen sooner or later. Either the nuclear bomb would do it, or the Large Hadron Collider scientists playing like small boys with guns they do not understand.

Now we are considering throwing a nuclear solution at the oil spill and hoping that it will make things better, but the last thing we want is a knee-jerk reaction to this problem. As if we have not done enough damage, we want to make the matter worse. Yeah - great. I dont think any God will help us on this one folks.
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:07 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I don't fully think anyone will really know the depth of this oil leak, for quite some time, i feel that the scope of the problems, may be much worse then anyone has anticipated. How long before we actually know just how much damage has been done.
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Old 06-16-2010, 11:09 PM
 
Location: PRC
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....and if the truth be told, nobody wants to know either. There is a distict lack of information such as daily updated maps of the extent of the oil slick.

Reminds me of the fictional story of a little Dutch boy who put his finger in the hole in the **** to save the country but in this case there is no small Dutch boy to save us.

This is an interesting modification of the story which is probably nearer the truth of our current situation.
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:13 AM
 
Location: PRC
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And the dumping of BP shares by the big investment corporations and banks will only increase as the news gets worse - Link to morningstar.

Senator confirms reports that wellbore is pierced; oil seeping from seabed in multiple places

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The ultimate worst-case scenario is that the well is never successfully plugged, said Fred Aminzadeh, a research professor at the University of Southern California’s Center for Integrated Smart Oil Fields who previously worked for Unocal Corp. That would leave the well to flow for probably more than a decade, he said in a telephone interview
One more really good report that gives further details on what happened and how bad the whole thing is.

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Old 06-17-2010, 02:40 AM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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I just listened to this report and if true, it's alot worse then we could of imagined.

Matt Simmons Revises Leak Estimate To 120,000 Barrels Per Day, Believes Oil Co
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Old 06-17-2010, 03:33 AM
 
Location: PRC
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Although I cannot see this from where I am, I trust that you guys can see this video that shows oil leaks on the seabed.
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Old 06-27-2010, 10:17 PM
 
Location: PRC
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also another must-see

Venice LA needs to be evacuated
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