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Old 08-08-2010, 06:48 PM
 
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[quote=KevK;15390053]These women were just bullied by their racist employer.[/quote}

Spanish speakers constitute a racial category? That's a new one.

On another note, we've had pages of comments by conservatives supporting Rand Paul's notion that businesses should have the freedom to discriminate against customers based upon their race. I've been told that this is a basic right of private property. Now I am being told that business don't have the right to set certain language requirements for their employees, so pardon me if I a little confused.

Why is it a right to discriminate against customer, the right to restrict their customer base, while on the other hand it is but it is some wrong to hire employees for the purpose of expanding their customer base?

Where can I get the secret conservative rule book that spells out when it is ok for government to interfere with a business when the general rule is government should never interfere with business?
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Old 08-08-2010, 09:20 PM
 
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It's increasingly common, at least in California, for employers to require that employees be trilingual in English, Spanish, and Chinese. Being bilingual is not enough.

How do you foresee the courts ruling on employers requiring people to speak Mandarin?
This crap is going to kill this country. The most basic bond of a society, the building block upon which it functions, is communication. There needs to be an official language in the U.S. We need to establish and protect the ability of all to communicate with each other via a common language. Refusing to make English official and required will only to lead to divisionsand barriers in our future. Speak as many languages as you want while living here, as long as one is English.
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Old 08-08-2010, 10:47 PM
 
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This crap is going to kill this country. The most basic bond of a society, the building block upon which it functions, is communication. There needs to be an official language in the U.S. We need to establish and protect the ability of all to communicate with each other via a common language. Refusing to make English official and required will only to lead to divisionsand barriers in our future. Speak as many languages as you want while living here, as long as one is English.
Doesn't the tenth amendment forbid the federal government from establishing an official language, although states are free to establish official languages?

Ironically, California is one of the US states that have established English as the official language, but you'd never know it....
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Old 08-08-2010, 11:09 PM
 
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This crap is going to kill this country. The most basic bond of a society, the building block upon which it functions, is communication. There needs to be an official language in the U.S. We need to establish and protect the ability of all to communicate with each other via a common language. Refusing to make English official and required will only to lead to divisionsand barriers in our future. Speak as many languages as you want while living here, as long as one is English.
agreed
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:33 AM
 
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At the end of the day, employers care most about their bottom line.

If hiring bilingual people or undocumented workers will increase their profits, then don't be surprised if they do so.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Pa
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I dont see whats wrong with Americans knowing at least some basic Spanish. Just like Hispanics who are not American should know some basic English. This country is made up of people who speak all kinds of languages.
Why only Spanish then? I mean we have immigrants from all over the world here. I think we already cater to one group to much.
I speak 2 languages and can get my point across in a third. It should not be forced.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:10 AM
 
Location: The West
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How did these clowns even get hired in the first place?

One thing I know is that I won't be learning any language for anyone.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:33 PM
 
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At the end of the day, employers care most about their bottom line.

If hiring bilingual people or undocumented workers will increase their profits, then don't be surprised if they do so.
However, it is discriminating and against the law.
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:31 PM
 
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However, it is discriminating and against the law.
How so?

Please advise.
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Seems like it would be a safety issue with some jobs, if the employer or other employees could not communicate to an employee.
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