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For all Paul's passion, his National Board remains something like the Libertarian Party of ophthalmology. Registered in Kentucky and governed by Paul and two family members, it continues – Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said – to run a formal, confidential recertification process for ABOP dissidents that is much like that of ABO itself. The group has no website and no public presence, but it most recently recertified a doctor just two weeks ago, Benton said. Paul, in his statement, suggested that the American Board of Medical Specialties had refused to embrace his rival group to protect ABOP, one of it charter members, though there's no evidence Paul ever seriously sought formal recognition.
The National Board of Ophthalmology "never quite caught fire like Rand and the 200 other ophthalmologists had hoped, but it continues to offer quality, trustworthy certifications for ophthalmologists," said Benton.
An ophthalmologist is a DOCTOR, as in, an MD. An ophthalmologist is also a SURGEON. To become an ophthalmologist, one must complete a four year medical school PLUS a three or four year medical residency specializing in ophthalmology medicine and surgery. Furthermore, there are fellowships for those who want further training in a subspecialty.
I believe in your mind, you were thinking of "optometrist," which is an eye doctor though not a medical doctor/surgeon.
A dictionary around the house is useful for learning these distinctions.
The boards under discussion are the American Board of Ophthalmology and Rand Paul's personal one he made in his clubhouse with stationery and a P.O. address.
I've typed essentially that same sentence so many times in this thread I can now spell Ophthalmology without a dictionary.... thanks, though
Many of you have confused the legitimate board with the AMA. For best results, try reading through the posts in this thread, and the several articles linked herein
The boards under discussion are the American Board of Ophthalmology and Rand Paul's personal one he made in his clubhouse with stationery and a P.O. address.
And the problem is where? LOTS of businesses are started in the same method..
his organization is an actual organization. You not liking the fact that he exercised his right to take part in the free enterprise system, doesnt mean its not real..
Still quite misleading....
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I have yet to see this claim through all of the postings here.. Where did he claim he was certified by other organizations, and again, why do I care? All I care about is if he's licensed to practice in the field in which he operates..
Delusianne has posted it over and over again, he made the claim prior to the Primary in the Courier Journal (a Louisville paper)
You have the nerve to tell me to stop misleading, while you start this thead accusing Paul of not being certified by organizations he doesnt need to be certified by..
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Delusianne has posted it over and over again, he made the claim prior to the Primary in the Courier Journal (a Louisville paper)
Again, where is Paul claiming he continued to have certification by some board that he doesnt even need to be certified by?
Pauls own statement acknowledge that he was NOT certified by the agencies currently, but was in the past. Right Now - Rand Paul: I passed my ophthalmology certification, but took a stand against the way the board operates I took the American Board of Ophthalmology (the largest governing body in ophthalmology) boards in 1995, passed them on my first attempt (as well as three times during residency), and was therefore board-certified under this organization for a decade.
In 1997, I, along with 200 other young ophthalmologists formed the National Board of Ophthalmology to protest the American Board of Ophthalmology's decision to grandfather in the older ophthalmologists and not require them to recertify.
You have the nerve to tell me to stop misleading, while you start this thead accusing Paul of not being certified by organizations he doesnt need to be certified by..
Again, where is Paul claiming he continued to have certification by some board that he doesnt even need to be certified by?
Pauls own statement acknowledge that he was NOT certified by the agencies currently, but was in the past. Right Now - Rand Paul: I passed my ophthalmology certification, but took a stand against the way the board operates I took the American Board of Ophthalmology (the largest governing body in ophthalmology) boards in 1995, passed them on my first attempt (as well as three times during residency), and was therefore board-certified under this organization for a decade.
In 1997, I, along with 200 other young ophthalmologists formed the National Board of Ophthalmology to protest the American Board of Ophthalmology's decision to grandfather in the older ophthalmologists and not require them to recertify.
I never said he needed to be certified by the organization, but when you claim to be board certified it generally means some board that is nationally recognizable, not some thing you made up yourself.
1. The AMA does not certify ANYONE. They are a political organization and not a certifying entity
2. The National Board of Medical Examiners certifies physicians (through NBME parts 1-3). The NBME recognizes certified residencies and endorses the certification of specialists through specialty oral and written exams.
3. Osteopaths (DO) have a parallel certifcation process. DOs can take NBME and be board certified through the NBME if they attend a certified residency. However,there is a separate certification process as well available to DOs that is not recognized bythe NBME.
My primary care doc is a DO and is outstanding (I am a training snob). He went to a good MD residency and is boarded. I think that DOs who go to good MD residencies are equivilent to MDs, but many have a harder time getting into the better residencies relative to MD grads.
There are all sorts of "lick em, stick em" certifications that one can get, but the NBME carries the most credence.
Hawkeye Doc over here explains everything. Rand Paul graduated from Duke University one of the best medical schools in the world.
I never said he needed to be certified by the organization, but when you claim to be board certified it generally means some board that is nationally recognizable, not some thing you made up yourself.
He had claimed to be certified by both boards, but Courier-Journal reporter Joseph Gerth quickly discovered that claim was false.
He was going to repeal the civil rights act because msnbc said so. That was false.
You also said he hasn't addressed the issue, that was false.
Show me proof that he said what he did. Use a credible source besides a paper which has an agenda against Rand.
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