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If he were so concerned with not causing harm he would not have punched someone in the face. And no I would not have been screaming violence if he would have restrained her, put her on the ground and cuffed her. If he felt threatened enough to punch the second girl in the face he should have diffused the situation more quickly rather than wrestling around with the girl.
How many people have you tried to restrain? What techniques did you use in effecting an arrest through physical restraint? I agree throwing the punch was stupid. A night stick slap would have been more effective and been within the rules of engagement.
How many people have you tried to restrain? What techniques did you use in effecting an arrest through physical restraint? I agree throwing the punch was stupid. A night stick slap would have been more effective and been within the rules of engagement.
I have restrained a few people (worked in a psychiatric hospital in nursing school). I used what I was trained to use to cause the least harm but quickly diffuse the situation. Do I think he should have punched the girl in the face? No way, however as I have said before on this thread my issue is the amount of time it took him to get control of the first girl. JMO but I think he could have resolved this more quickly with less "wrestling" around with the first girl, he looked to me as if he were struggling to restrain her. What if that girl had been a male his size or larger? Would he have been capable of restraining him? Would that officer be in greater danger? I am not anti-police (just clearing that up in case it is not clear) I just think this situation could have been better handled.
The cop instigated the incident. What was he doing hassling young blacks for jaywalking anyway?
No way would he have punched a white girl in the face like that.
Are you serious? Don't try to twist this into the usual racial City Data BS.
I see two out of control women resisting arrest and attacking a cop. Hello! What the hell did they expect to happen. It could have been pepper spray and a billy club up side the head. She got off easy.
They turned a routine citation into felony assault of a police officer. I hope the Judge throws the book at them. Some people have to learn the hard way.
This is total racism. This guy should be ashamed of himself and censured appropriately.
There is no racism. One could just as easily argue that the group of black people circling around, and not helping the white officer, were racist. I am alarmed that not one person appeared to offer or give assistance to an officer, during what could have been one hell of an ugly situation. At one point it appears that a guy pulls one of the women back, but I didn't watch the video again to verify this. Of course I only can judge the situation by the video, but it looks like the officer is in a terrible situation. He's alone, he is surrounded by people, at least a few of whom are yelling or screaming, and he is unable to subdue a person who has repeatedly attacked him. Major friggin' problem.
This video strongly supports the officer, in my opinion. I don't care whether this took place in a fancy suburb or a ghetto, people can't ignore laws and/or law enforcement officers. One can NEVER interfere (especially physically) with a law enforcement officer. EVER. I am surprised that any person does not understand this.
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I have restrained a few people (worked in a psychiatric hospital in nursing school). I used what I was trained to use to cause the least harm but quickly diffuse the situation. Do I think he should have punched the girl in the face? No way, however as I have said before on this thread my issue is the amount of time it took him to get control of the first girl. JMO but I think he could have resolved this more quickly with less "wrestling" around with the first girl, he looked to me as if he were struggling to restrain her. What if that girl had been a male his size or larger? Would he have been capable of restraining him? Would that officer be in greater danger? I am not anti-police (just clearing that up in case it is not clear) I just think this situation could have been better handled.
Could it be better handled? Yes... Was it mishandled? No... you see in the real world, there are no "only one right answer"... What I am surprise is that people would rather seek to demonize one of several correct answers...
It has nothing to do with racism, cops are generally jerks to everyone in general. I know plenty of white people who've had the snot beaten out of them by cops.
I imagine they were just minding their own business, being good little boys...right?
Usually, when you behave badly towards a police officer, bad things will happen.
These girls were behaving badly, and now we know the reason why;
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Both females arrested by Walsh have criminal records.
I have restrained a few people (worked in a psychiatric hospital in nursing school). I used what I was trained to use to cause the least harm but quickly diffuse the situation. Do I think he should have punched the girl in the face? No way, however as I have said before on this thread my issue is the amount of time it took him to get control of the first girl. JMO but I think he could have resolved this more quickly with less "wrestling" around with the first girl, he looked to me as if he were struggling to restrain her. What if that girl had been a male his size or larger? Would he have been capable of restraining him? Would that officer be in greater danger? I am not anti-police (just clearing that up in case it is not clear) I just think this situation could have been better handled.
Agreed. He did pussyfoot around to long. However once the other bystander gets involved the dynamics change quickly. He now has to think of protecting his flank. I love Monday morning quarter backing. Don't you?
I thoroughly enjoyed it when in IA.
Could it be better handled? Yes... Was it mishandled? No... you see in the real world, there are no "only one right answer"... What I am surprise is that people would rather seek to demonize one of several correct answers...
I am not trying to demonize anything I am saying what you said in you first sentence it could have been handled better. As I said before I was not there all I have to go on is the video and article. In the video it appears the officer is struggling to restrain a teenage girl, if he were in fact struggling had the offender been a male his size or larger could this officer been seriously injured?
In the video it appears the officer is struggling to restrain a teenage girl, if he were in fact struggling had the offender been a male his size or larger could this officer been seriously injured?
I imagine the male would have his head firmly pressed into the concrete....
If anything this cop should have treated this girl no differently....disobey,resist,taste the pavement...get to enjoy the taste of your own blood.
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