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Old 06-16-2010, 07:17 AM
 
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I'd say you lost the argument. Even a staunch rightwinger who agrees with your side of the AZ law told you you were full of it. You tried to spin this story as though it was even relevant to the AZ law and council wide protest. The councilmen and mayor even stated their "boycott" was just with AZ firms and contracts. It didn't say anywhere in any of your links they called for a city wide boycott and nowhere no way did they even mention baseball.
Not quite.. The City would be obligated to hold the game, but if the citizens felt strongly about a boycott, then the arena would have been empty..
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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And when the MLB schedule was created it was well before the AZ law passed.
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:18 AM
 
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And when the MLB schedule was created it was well before the AZ law passed.
It would have been created years ago..
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:25 AM
 
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I wasn't referring to you in that second to previous post, pgh. For whatever reason the quote button doesn't always appear for me.
But the city never called for a downright boycott of AZ business. If they would've and then told people not to go to this game, it's hypothetical arguing if people would've showed.
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Actually they dont.. Our lease with the city when we played only allowed the city the right to revoke the permit under several conditions
1) Our team didnt pay our lease fees
2) Out teams insurance lapsed
3) Our corporate license was revoked by the state

There might have been some other conditions as well (I'd have to pull out the lease to look again) but they all dealt with the teams failure to do something which then authorized the city to revoke the permit to play. As long as the team was in legal standing, the city could not revoke the permits because they would then become liable for any expenses the team invested into planning the game..

I don't think Fenway is leased but i'd have to pull public records and see how it's deeded. The city could block the game by refusing to provide services suah as police and sanitation.
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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I'd say you lost the argument. Even a staunch rightwinger who agrees with your side of the AZ law told you you were full of it. You tried to spin this story as though it was even relevant to the AZ law and council wide protest. The councilmen and mayor even stated their "boycott" was just with AZ firms and contracts. It didn't say anywhere in any of your links they called for a city wide boycott and nowhere no way did they even mention baseball.

I disagree. The city made money off an Arizona business. Who cares if it's baseball or a basket weaving company.
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:52 AM
 
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Not quite.. The City would be obligated to hold the game, but if the citizens felt strongly about a boycott, then the arena would have been empty..

the arena would have been empty.....Another good point......
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:54 AM
 
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The purpose of a boycott is that the other city doesn't make money. Not vice-versa.
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:59 AM
 
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The purpose of a boycott is that the other city doesn't make money. Not vice-versa.

There's also a principle. It's not only money. Do all of the cities that have boycotted actually do any significant business in AZ if any at all? I say the other city did make money. Can you prove that they didn't? Are you saying that all road games are played for free by the visiting team and noi tyax revenues are created?

Also....Let's say peole went to a bar in AZ and watched the game. AZ made money......

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Old 06-16-2010, 08:03 AM
 
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I don't think Fenway is leased but i'd have to pull public records and see how it's deeded. The city could block the game by refusing to provide services suah as police and sanitation.
I checked and indeed the park is owned by the owner of the Red Sox. The city I'm sure would be in some type of violation to provide services, but even if they arent, blocking services would only harm the city and reduce revenues in the city.. They would only be harming themself which is why they dont put their money where their mouth is and truly boycott AZ..
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