Is Cuba still our enemy? (illegal aliens, dictators, economy, Montana)
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I have to admit, when a country like the United States denies healthcare to its citizens, allowing them to die, and runs a torture camp on the coast of Cuba, I wonder: What exactly is so wrong with Cuba? Who do they torture? What wars have they started?
We have seen the enemy, and he is thee.
Cuba isn't the enemy to us, but we're certainly an enemy to Cuba. They haven't been a real threat to us since the fall of the Soviet Union, and considering that we trade with Saudi Arabia and China more than nearly any other country with all their political and human rights issues, there's no reason to continue the foolish embargo.
The only reason it continues is because politicians are scared to lose the Miami vote. It's really political cowardice more than anything that keeps us from visiting that awesome island (I've been) full of beautiful women, gorgeous architecture, wonderful beaches, jungles, baseball all over the place and for those who (unlike myself) drink: great rum and ice cold mojitos.
A lot of our policy toward Cuba is based on anger and vengeance - and not even our own anger, to a large extent, but rather, the anger of people who fled Cuba after Batista's fall. That's really the only way to explain the bizarre travel embargo - a measure that is seen as so ineffective it hasn't been replicated with other countries. Not Iran. Not North Korea. Not Burma. Cuba stands alone.
Obviously, Cuban authorities commit human rights abuses and hold political prisoners. But if we're being honest, we'd admit that this isn't much different from the standards of the region. Cuba's neighbor Jamaica launched an operation a couple weeks ago to "arrest a drug dealer" that left 80 civilians dead, and led to (rather substantial) allegations of police executions of unarmed men.
Cuba's neighbor Haiti is notorious for housing prisoners in conditions so dire that many of them die of communicable diseases before reaching trial.
The nearby Dominican Republic has a curious problem with journalists (especially those asking uncomfortable questions to the powerful) mysteriously getting shot by "unknown men" who ride off on motorcycles. And the DR's own prisons aren't a model of human rights, either - a riot and fire killed 140 of them at a single facility a few years ago.
But we don't have people with deep-seated hatred toward the DR or Jamaica or Haiti controlling our policies toward those countries.
If the standard for an embargo was "a human rights situation as bad or worse than Cuba," we'd be embargoing a third or more of all the countries on the planet.
Funny are the defences which go like ..." There are other murderers too,not just my client "...
I see that CDF,besides having quite a few antisems,has a few commie-lovers too...
Funny are the defences which go like ..." There are other murderers too,not just my client "...
It's not a defense of anything. It's just a way of pointing out the nonsense of the embargo.
A travel embargo limits the freedom of American citizens. Anything that limits freedom needs a very good justification behind it. There is no such justification for the Cuba embargo.
As a result, it should be abandoned as soon as possible.
If you're implying that Cuba is a free country you are either an idiot or a troll.
It wasn't a free country when it was a friend. The difference then was, the dictator was a friend of America, not necessarily of Cubans. And this situation isn't unique to Cuba either. We have a long history of classifying free countries as enemies, while supporting not-so free countries, and often through bloody dictators. Rarely talked about but Pakistan is also a good example of that. Both India and Pakistan were set up as democracies, which was working fine, until late 1960s in Pakistan and thriving in India.
Then, Nixon decided that it was prudent to support Pakistan when it was busy oppressing and killing East Pakistanis whose leader had just won the democratic election. India stepped in, urging Pakistan to stop it since East Pakistanis were running into India and it was becoming an illegal immigration nightmare, a burden. Pakistan responds by attacking a remote outpost in western India. And India responds by taking about 70 miles of Pakistani territory. Nixon, meanwhile, decided to stand for Pakistan, and goes for a stand off with nuclear powered USS Enterprise against India. India finds a friend in USSR, which dispatches its submarines, and the rest is history. India wins, and Bangladesh is formed. The essence here, did we not support the oppressors?
Pakistan is largely a failed democracy and now a huge threat for similar reasons.
It wasn't a free country when it was a friend. The difference then was, the dictator was a friend of America, not necessarily of Cubans. And this situation isn't unique to Cuba either. We have a long history of classifying free countries as enemies, while supporting not-so free countries, and often through bloody dictators. Rarely talked about but Pakistan is also a good example of that. Both India and Pakistan were set up as democracies, which was working fine, until late 1960s in Pakistan and thriving in India.
Then, Nixon decided that it was prudent to support Pakistan when it was busy oppressing and killing East Pakistanis whose leader had just won the democratic election. India stepped in, urging Pakistan to stop it since East Pakistanis were running into India and it was becoming an illegal immigration nightmare, a burden. Pakistan responds by attacking a remote outpost in western India. And India responds by taking about 70 miles of Pakistani territory. Nixon, meanwhile, decided to stand for Pakistan, and goes for a stand off with nuclear powered USS Enterprise against India. India finds a friend in USSR, which dispatches its submarines, and the rest is history. India wins, and Bangladesh is formed. The essence here, did we not support the oppressors?
Pakistan is largely a failed democracy and now a huge threat for similar reasons.
Most failed democracies are the result of American interference.
We need to learn to stay out of other people's business and stick to building our own country. That's how Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Jackson did it, and that's how we'd be best served as a nation and as a world.
The idea that the embargo must be lifted because it hurts the people of Cuba & not the regime,is right...
Now,wrong people ( communist lovers ),together with the right kind of people,may have the right idea...
So,each one must choose sides & declare if he is against the embargo as a commie lover or as a Cuban lover...
The idea that the embargo must be lifted because it hurts the people of Cuba & not the regime,is right...
Now,wrong people ( communist lovers ),together with the right kind of people,may have the right idea...
So,each one must choose sides & declare if he is against the embargo as a commie lover or as a Cuban lover...
hmm, Communist Lovers, is that a sexual orientation?
Now,wrong people ( communist lovers ),together with the right kind of people,may have the right idea...
I don't get this idea of "wrong people". Why can't people choose to adhere to the philosophy that they believe in? It shouldn't make them wrong or an enemy. It just makes them politically different. Personally, I'm as likely to disagree with communists as I am with free marketeers. Neither extreme serves humanity properly, and that is my belief. But people have a choice to believe in what they want to. Except in America, where communism is quickly villified.
On an interesting note, India is a democratic republic, the largest of the democracies in the world. And it has communist parties that partake in the elections. They often win, and lose, just like any other party.
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