Obama believes that 30,000 troops + Petraeus = Victory in an unwinnable war.

[swbtoo]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

Maybe the best solution is to bring the troops home but they need to accept that the Taliban will be back and take their toll on anyone that assisted us.

And the knowledge of that over there may be keeping a lot of the locals from assisting more effectively. With a timeline, all of them know that payback will be coming, and when.

[bily4]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

A timeline is a losing proposition we need to go into this to win otherwise we don't belong there. Any timeline we set will have the local leaders straddling the fence and the Taliban will just bide there time until the withdrawal.

Maybe the best solution is to bring the troops home but they need to accept that the Taliban will be back and take their toll on anyone that assisted us.

Define "win" please. The Taliban will be back, ok. What about al qaeda, remember them. They have a strong presence in many countries all around the world.

Who are we kidding.

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by bily4

Define "win" please. The Taliban will be back, ok. What about al qaeda, remember them. They have a strong presence in many countries all around the world.

Who are we kidding.

I don't know what win is anymore but if we withdraw you can be sure that Al Qaeda will be back from Pakistan when we are gone. Its hard to remember the original mission in some of these so called wars it seems to be a work in progress. I have to wonder if Bush went into Iraq to prove something because he felt Afghanistan was doomed to failure. After all Russia was right next door and still failed.