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Old 06-25-2010, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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How am I wrong when I am just asking questions? I just keep hearing from you people that this is happening and this is happening and this is happening and none of you can get your story straight, I just want you to figure out what it really is for you own sake
Make sure you read my soon to be posted link about the Venona Project so you can see that maybe, just maybe, old Joe McCarthy could have saved us from a pile of hurt that we have had the past 2 years if he hadn't been buried by lefties.
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Old 06-25-2010, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Is it that hard to believe people in this country like the idea of communism and or some form of socialism.
Why wouldnt they look to secure high office and promote these ideas after all that is the only way they can change anything.
After all to a communist they like the struggle of changing a nation of individuals to a nation of slaves to their idealogy which is about control and for the common good of all.
Even if that means those who work must suffer for those who, can't wont and or turn the power that is government into the boot that is put on your neck and your lips from revolting when realize nothing is fair. It is only fair when it is based on how many of the population can think the same and surpress your individual thinking into group thought.

This applies to other forms of government even this current one.
Washington can not run peoples lives this is the root of all thinking of those who wish to control society not just "natures laws" but the laws of exisistance.
From what car you drive, how far, how long, the effects of TV, radio, music, the arts, speech, activies, sex, children. All for the good of society enforced by elected people who support the majority RULE!
This is the difference between limited government which is the original design and those who wish to ignore its design and expand the role of government over everyones life. Economic liberty according to the communist idealogy or even some socialist thinkers is when government provides for you the ability to live, function and restrain those who aquire wealth. I personally am not looking to aquire wealth I am looking to support myself and if working for someone else who happens to have wealth from this ideas or others ideas on what we deem to be worthwhile investments what is wrong with that.
The inventor of the TV, cable, and internet techonologies is wealthy and gives many people jobs of which make the ideas expand and the wealth of others to as well.
It gives jobs to those who have none to support themselves even build their own wealth if they choose too.
Government doesnt create anything it only consumes the work of others to support its own system and expand itself so those who do work also become dependent. American Government was created only to protection of the innocent and basic rights of INDIVIDUALS so they can succeed in whatever they wish to with their own resources and hardwork and the defense of the nation.

In nature animals are not provided shelter animals work to create it. They hunt their food, protect it, and search to find it.
In government they want those who hunt, protect and search and work to support the rest of the herd.
Being unlike animals we have compassion of individual choice which allows us to create charities for those who CAN"T WORK, ILL and or OLD.
That is the difference between communists/socialist is believe in everyone having the same "rights" even if it will cost everyone else despair which in the end.
Why because those who try this form of government become oppressive over time. According to them if everyone has the same nobody will be unhappy, everyone will live above class and the human nature of greed.
What if those elected with the power are greedy, they take from those working to support a government so big it in times of crisis keeps for itself.
Human nature has taught the world that we as humans or animals we all want different things even if the choices are all the same or even provided for you.
The united states constitution is a direct response to the human nature of kings, queens, and government rule over people who wanted only to be individuals and make their own destiny, their land, fruit of their labor. Its like saying someone likes the color red and if you wanted something that government didnt give you in that color you have no right to make it red. Does the color red not exist or even a choice or would a red color bring up to many choices of which would be counteractive to the resources created and controlled to make a red CAR, dress, etc.

I like apples and you like oranges I see no reason for government to tell anyone what they can have, how many as long as the person who likes the apples or oranges is willing to work for them or grow them themselves.
Government should get the hell out of the way.

When people in government from the extreme right or left are the facist kind individuals lose liberty.
So no matter who is elected the constitutiton was written to make sure no matter what you idealogy of controlling people government would be limited and have no power to do so!!! When people no longer follow the rule of law of individual freedom we must revolt to restore it from those seeking power over everyone.

If your rights were violated they have all the power in the world to protect you and bring about justice against those who are denying you basic rights if living on this planet and in this country showing your good faith in your responsibly to take care of yourself.
The same cant be said of any other government before this one was created and they same people trying to change that and pervert it into something else have been come the enenmy of true freedom.
I am not allowed to rep you so I will just say right out here in the open that you just posted a winner. Keep trying because there is a chance that some eyes may open up at the right time.
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Old 06-25-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Yeaaah I'd love to see them try. The world isn't populated by wet noodles FYI. So its safe to assume those who continue calling Obama a Marxist, socialist, and Fascist, are idiots?
Which of those names do you want to apply to me? I guess idiot is the one, huh?
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Old 06-25-2010, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The World Council of Churches is full of communists! Leave your church now, before it's too late!
Kat, I hate to say this but you just dropped a bit IMO by taking part in the game playing of the Historian.
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Old 06-25-2010, 05:24 PM
 
Location: California
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That is one of the favorite comebacks of lefties but I think you can surely come up with something that proves that the woman never took part in communist activities
In order to prove someone never did something you would have to account for every minute of their life.
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Old 06-25-2010, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Kat, I hate to say this but you just dropped a bit IMO by taking part in the game playing of the Historian.
Too bad. That the WCC was full of communists was a common battle cry of the anti-communists in the late 60s, when the Viet Nam war protests were going on.

THE TRUTH ABOUT THE WORLD COUNCIL OF CHURCHES

The Truth About The World Council Of Churches

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Old 06-25-2010, 05:30 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Make sure you read my soon to be posted link about the Venona Project so you can see that maybe, just maybe, old Joe McCarthy could have saved us from a pile of hurt that we have had the past 2 years if he hadn't been buried by lefties.
Your still dodging the question as to whether or not this government is trying to create a socialist, fascist, Marxist, or communist government because again I have heard it all.
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Old 06-25-2010, 05:31 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Which of those names do you want to apply to me? I guess idiot is the one, huh?
Do you believe Obama is all three? Plus a commie? If yes, then the answer to your second question is, "if the shoe fits. If you only believe he is one of these four options obviously idiot wasn't directed towards you.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:19 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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sounds like a paranoid delusional writing from the 1950s!
funny, OP sounds like a paranoid delusional writing from the 2000s.

Seriously, people. Nobody is trying to abolish private property and replace markets with central government pricing. Get real.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:35 AM
 
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I gave you links and stuff from the net, what have you provided? Nothing but your attacks and opinions. Kind of coincidental that Nakita Kruschev said this in 1960..


Excerpts from a speech by Secretary of Agriculture under the Eisenhower Administration, Ezra Taft Benson:

"Your children will live under communism." Khrushchev said.

"On the contrary," Secretary Benson replied, "My grandchildren will live in freedom as I hope that all people will."

Khrushchev then retorted: "You Americans are so gullible. No, you won't accept Communism outright; but we'll keep feeding you small doses of Socialism until you will finally wake up and find that you already have Communism. We won't have to fight you; we'll so weaken your economy, until you fall like overripe fruit into our hands."
I noticed everything you've said basically so far was shown in the first 10 minutes of the Glenn Beck show earlier this week. I also noticed how it was trying to stir up McCarthyist fears in Americans again. That's not a good idea... Many innocent lives were ruined because of McCarthy.

This quote of yours that you got from the GB show is extremely outdated. There is no 'communist plot' like there was back then. There are only well-meaning progressives, well-meaning conservatives and a crapload of opportunist politicians, corporations and their propaganda parrots on tv. But that's all for money - that's all. Greed. It's a real threat, yes, but it's not a "communist threat".
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