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Wait so is it a new world order they are trying to form, or a communist government? Or are we going for Marxism? Or is it a socialist government we are trying to achieve? Once your "tin foil hat club" final decides which it is get back to me . Oh and I forgot Fascism.
They had to change their name and fly under a different flag to get people on board. And it looks like this board has alot of people on it. They scammed alot of people to fight for communism and they didn't even know it.
read a few posts up to burdell and read about the Vernona intercepts. It might make you cringe because it will prove you wrong.
How am I wrong when I am just asking questions? I just keep hearing from you people that this is happening and this is happening and this is happening and none of you can get your story straight, I just want you to figure out what it really is for you own sake
Wait so is it a new world order they are trying to form, or a communist government? Or are we going for Marxism? Or is it a socialist government we are trying to achieve? Once your "tin foil hat club" final decides which it is get back to me . Oh and I forgot Fascism.
Hey comrade, a NWO IS Communism for the ENTIRE WORLD! Workers of the world unite? Yep, one big a$$ pool of labor slaves for the elites to abuse and rob blind to get filthy rich.
How am I wrong when I am just asking questions? I just keep hearing from you people that this is happening and this is happening and this is happening and none of you can get your story straight, I just want you to figure out what it really is for you own sake
You already know what it is. NWO, err, Communism on a world scale.
You really need to prove that that author made up that list.
The only source of that list is his book. That his book is the source is proven by your own post. So at this point, DC and I both assert something that you have already acknowledged is true.
But you have gone further. You have lied and claimed that it was actually originally some other "document." So that's the only position here that anybody disagrees with and that needs to be proved.
We are waiting for you to do so. Show us that original document that is not his book.
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He claims there was extensive research done, how in the world do YOU kow that he didn't get that list from the CPUSA at the time?
You are alledging he made it up. I already posted info saying that everything in that book was carefully documented. Your turn to show otherwise.
You didn't post info saying that his book was carefully researched. You posted him whining that his critics had an agenda. How did he research the book? Where does he get his facts?
Is it that hard to believe people in this country like the idea of communism and or some form of socialism.
Why wouldnt they look to secure high office and promote these ideas after all that is the only way they can change anything.
After all to a communist they like the struggle of changing a nation of individuals to a nation of slaves to their idealogy which is about control and for the common good of all.
Even if that means those who work must suffer for those who, can't wont and or turn the power that is government into the boot that is put on your neck and your lips from revolting when realize nothing is fair. It is only fair when it is based on how many of the population can think the same and surpress your individual thinking into group thought.
This applies to other forms of government even this current one.
Washington can not run peoples lives this is the root of all thinking of those who wish to control society not just "natures laws" but the laws of exisistance.
From what car you drive, how far, how long, the effects of TV, radio, music, the arts, speech, activies, sex, children. All for the good of society enforced by elected people who support the majority RULE!
This is the difference between limited government which is the original design and those who wish to ignore its design and expand the role of government over everyones life. Economic liberty according to the communist idealogy or even some socialist thinkers is when government provides for you the ability to live, function and restrain those who aquire wealth. I personally am not looking to aquire wealth I am looking to support myself and if working for someone else who happens to have wealth from this ideas or others ideas on what we deem to be worthwhile investments what is wrong with that.
The inventor of the TV, cable, and internet techonologies is wealthy and gives many people jobs of which make the ideas expand and the wealth of others to as well.
It gives jobs to those who have none to support themselves even build their own wealth if they choose too.
Government doesnt create anything it only consumes the work of others to support its own system and expand itself so those who do work also become dependent. American Government was created only to protection of the innocent and basic rights of INDIVIDUALS so they can succeed in whatever they wish to with their own resources and hardwork and the defense of the nation.
In nature animals are not provided shelter animals work to create it. They hunt their food, protect it, and search to find it.
In government they want those who hunt, protect and search and work to support the rest of the herd.
Being unlike animals we have compassion of individual choice which allows us to create charities for those who CAN"T WORK, ILL and or OLD.
That is the difference between communists/socialist is believe in everyone having the same "rights" even if it will cost everyone else despair which in the end.
Why because those who try this form of government become oppressive over time. According to them if everyone has the same nobody will be unhappy, everyone will live above class and the human nature of greed.
What if those elected with the power are greedy, they take from those working to support a government so big it in times of crisis keeps for itself.
Human nature has taught the world that we as humans or animals we all want different things even if the choices are all the same or even provided for you.
The united states constitution is a direct response to the human nature of kings, queens, and government rule over people who wanted only to be individuals and make their own destiny, their land, fruit of their labor. Its like saying someone likes the color red and if you wanted something that government didnt give you in that color you have no right to make it red. Does the color red not exist or even a choice or would a red color bring up to many choices of which would be counteractive to the resources created and controlled to make a red CAR, dress, etc.
I like apples and you like oranges I see no reason for government to tell anyone what they can have, how many as long as the person who likes the apples or oranges is willing to work for them or grow them themselves.
Government should get the hell out of the way.
When people in government from the extreme right or left are the facist kind individuals lose liberty.
So no matter who is elected the constitutiton was written to make sure no matter what you idealogy of controlling people government would be limited and have no power to do so!!! When people no longer follow the rule of law of individual freedom we must revolt to restore it from those seeking power over everyone.
If your rights were violated they have all the power in the world to protect you and bring about justice against those who are denying you basic rights if living on this planet and in this country showing your good faith in your responsibly to take care of yourself.
The same cant be said of any other government before this one was created and they same people trying to change that and pervert it into something else have been come the enenmy of true freedom.
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Hey comrade, a NWO IS Communism for the ENTIRE WORLD! Workers of the world unite? Yep, one big a$$ pool of labor slaves for the elites to abuse and rob blind to get filthy rich.
Yeaaah I'd love to see them try. The world isn't populated by wet noodles FYI. So its safe to assume those who continue calling Obama a Marxist, socialist, and Fascist, are idiots?
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. Oh and I forgot Fascism.
