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Old 06-25-2010, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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I so agree! In fact they should spread the campaign to dishwashers, hot roofers and construction labour. Thye fact is Americans do not like to sweat and would not touch those jobs. Even if you found an American to take a sweat job, he would complain, demand smoke breaks every hour and call in sick at least once a week. The Mexican will come to work everyday on time, give you a days labour and all he needs is a cooler of ice water and he will work all day with no complaint.
Yup. A Mexican will show up, even with the FLU, a broken leg, hemroids,scabies,hives,conjunctivitis,pleurisy, yadda yadda yadda
Cooler of ice water ? nah ! a tablespoon will suffice.
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:11 PM
 
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Even if the job paid $15 an hour I doubt that more than a few Americans would want it. Americans like to sit down in air conditioning to work. I will tell you from personal experience because I know many people that work for the phone company and cable TV company as techs and they are paid about $25 an hour after 5 years and it is hard to get people for that job because it requires working on poles and in hot attics and crawl spaces under homes. Lots of people quit it after a short time. Americans do not like to sweat or get dirty (unless they are at a mud bogging truck show).
"""Americans do not like to sweat or get dirty"""


So YOU KNOW ALL AMERICANS???! REALLY???


Here's a shocker...you OBVIOUSLY don't!!!!


Where do YOU live??? In a bubble?

MANY Americans sweat and get grimy every working day!

Have YOU REALLY never heard of MINERS!

You've really never heard of FARMERS!!
Ranchers??


Never heard of maintenaince workers?


Never heard of janitors?

Hospital housekeepers?

Construction workers??

NEVER??? REALLY!


Machine shop workers???


Mechanics??? You never heard of mechanics???






Just because a GOOD American refuses to be ABUSED does not mean they're lazy!!!
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:13 PM
 
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Oh, and at the last place I worked ...IMMIGRANTS were hired BEFORE anyone else....before Americans who had been here their whole lives....


SO THEY DO TAKE JOBS AWAY!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-25-2010, 02:52 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Even if the job paid $15 an hour I doubt that more than a few Americans would want it. Americans like to sit down in air conditioning to work. I will tell you from personal experience because I know many people that work for the phone company and cable TV company as techs and they are paid about $25 an hour after 5 years and it is hard to get people for that job because it requires working on poles and in hot attics and crawl spaces under homes. Lots of people quit it after a short time. Americans do not like to sweat or get dirty (unless they are at a mud bogging truck show).
Since jobs paying more than $10 an hour are hard to find in Vermont, actually many are willing to work such jobs here. I was making more than $10 an hour. Some hard up dairy farmers are using illegals for low wages here but they're starting to get in a bit of trouble for that.
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:13 PM
 
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But if they become legal they'll become lazy as we are, right?
Who's going to do those jobs then?
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:41 PM
 
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But if they become legal they'll become lazy as we are, right?
Who's going to do those jobs then?
If they had to start paying taxes and the company had to document them they would then lose their job to some other illegal.
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Immigrant farm workers' challenge: Take our jobs - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100624/ap_on_en_tv/us_immigration_take_our_jobs - broken link)
You missed the most important part of the story. . .
"During summer, when the harvest of fruits and vegetables is in full swing in California's Central Valley, temperatures hover in the triple digits. Heat exhaustion is one of the reasons farm labor consistently makes the Bureau of Labor Statistics' top ten list of the nation's most dangerous jobs.

Second, expect long days. Growers have a small window to pick fruit before it is overripe.


And don't count on a big paycheck. Farm workers are excluded from federal overtime provisions, and small farms don't even have to pay the minimum wage. Fifteen states don't require farm labor to be covered by workers compensation laws."
It's despicable that in a country like ours, we allow any employer to treat its employees like slaves. It's not the immigrants driving down the wages, it's the farm industry that is allowed to get away with paying sub-standard-of-living wages, and takes every advantage of it by hiring the only people who will suck it up under those conditions.

Americans don't mind sweating, but we sure as hell mind having to work overtime without pay, in conditions that can kill you, without workers compensation benefits if something does happen to us.
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Old 06-25-2010, 04:00 PM
 
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If they had to start paying taxes and the company had to document them they would then lose their job to some other illegal.
That's my point. There's no end to it.
We should shut the gate closed tight instead of keeping it open indefinitely.
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:01 PM
 
Location: California
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My daughters bf picked walnuts last summer when he was in college. So did some of his buddies. I think lots of college guys would get in on that just to be outdoors and getting a little workout. Obviously it wasn't a career goal or anything...
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I think most college guys would last about 3 days in most cases. They have already tried this in parts of the country before and the crops started to rot. For most Americans, minimum wage is not worth it.

Farmers say even recession didn't bring Americans back to farm work, immigration reform needed - Florida Citrus Mutual
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