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Old 06-29-2010, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Spot frigging on!

It's simply stupefying to read how twisted some of the comments are on this thread.


1. The MMS was working hand in hand with the oil industry. Thanks GOilP! Thanks Dumbya and cheney. When will you people learn that if a penny is to be gained by these vultures, whether it's banks, Wallstreet, oil and gas, or any industry; they will not regulate themselves. They just won't do it.


2. BP took too many shortcuts to list here. Like a culture plate with many colonies.....TMTC.


Deflection may convince yourselves that this catashophy is the 'guvment's' fault, but the primary blame lies with BP. Period.


What we've been left with is an ecosystem on the verge of crashing; an ocean full of an endocrine disruptor that has NEVER had any toxicology studies AND has chemical constituents that are protected by proprietary; an ocean with waves of oil below surface that we do not know how far it will travel; loss of jobs, both land and sea; loss of life from at least four of the five of the Kingdoms: Monera, Protista, Plant, and Animal. Fungi? Don't know.


Forr the human aspect post BP: Get ready for a drastic increase of depression and suicides family stife, increased drug and alcohol abuse, and increase in divorce. A culture is breaking down and these things are the aftermath.


Anyone who makes this horrific, killing of culture, life and ecosystems into an excuse to blame Obama is choosing to swat a roach when you should be exterminating the source. The source are the crooked, lying, unethical corporations AND politicians that always put a dime or their next campaign contribution before safety and protection of people and this planet.
I'm sure the people, the marine life and the ecosystems all appreciate your hysterical rant of arm flailing, circle running, and finger pointing.

Now we need the adults to come in and clean this mess up, We can find someone to blame later, but we need to clean the mess up now, preferably as much as possible before it causes more damage. This means accepting help from the dozens of nations that have offered, and employing the thousands of skimmers and booms that have sat idle for the past two months.

Regrettably, our president is not too interested in doing all we can, he prefers to to employ the minimalist approach, so he can use this serious crisis as "an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.” and push his green energy and cap & trade agenda thru the congress.
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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What part of "there is no cleaning up of this mess possible" don't some of you get? Obama wants the greatest environmental disaster in human history on his watch? Is deliberately prolonging it? Honestly, the things that get said in this forum.

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Of course there's no real cleaning up of the mess... you don't really expect SEIU to take over foreign ships and shovel tar laden sand do you?

And of course the Wone doesn't want an historical environmental disaster on his watch, that's why BP is to blame rather than government oversight. It's not like the government is really involved in crude production now, is it? It's painfully obvious the Wone can't do anything about the environmental disaster. He's powerless, but we already know that.

The loss of jobs in oil production, fishing and tourism, life lines of coastal economic survival, plays right to the Wone's agenda to marginalize the ability of politically opposing forces, sucking hunger strapped citizens into government support programs.

And the hard choices come next year.
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:54 AM
 
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What part of "there is no cleaning up of this mess possible" don't some of you get? Obama wants the greatest environmental disaster in human history on his watch? Is deliberately prolonging it? Honestly, the things that get said in this forum.

H
Are you suggesting that because it is the largest oil leak and that because 100% of the leak cannot be cleaned up then none of it should? Does that mean you believe that the federal government should do nothing when they are responsible for what happens in federal waters? Are you suggesting that some concerted efforts at clean up, in a timely manner, would have been at no benefit to any part of the ecosystems affected? Really?

Sounds like the same approach used to secure the border. If they can't do something 100% then they do nothing at all (except send lawyers).
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Old 06-29-2010, 04:53 PM
 
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If they can't do something 100% then they do nothing at all (except send lawyers).
Noted.
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Old 06-29-2010, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Check this out, Bill Clinton makes a lot of sense from 2:25 - 3:10

Bill Clinton: We May Have to Blow Up Oil Well - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
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