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Old 06-29-2010, 08:21 PM
 
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A semi automatic is a semi automatic, yet liberals love to ban "assault weapons" because of how they look. They look like the military versions. so ban them according to libs, despite funtionally, they are semi autos just like any semi auto hunting style rifle. banning something merely because of how it looks?
Give a link please for your claim?
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Old 06-29-2010, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Give a link please for your claim?
Can you explain why Conn. would ban the AK-47 by name, yet allow every other rifle to be owned?
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Old 06-29-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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Can you explain why Conn. would ban the AK-47 by name, yet allow every other rifle to be owned?
In other words, there is no link for it? Just say so.
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Old 06-29-2010, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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In other words, there is no link for it? Just say so.
Ah, so the AK-74, AK in 308 and AK in 223 were merely "forgotten" by Conn's esteemed legislators? Just say so.
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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1. A 6" group at 100 yards is pretty bad
2. A Romanian AK sells on gunbroker for about $475, which is pretty damn cheap compared to an AR-15. Even a bolt action Remington 700 is $650. Depending on the maker, ar -15 is $1000-$2,000 (Les Baer with all the bells and whistles).
3. AK ammo is cheap. One can still buy cases of very cheap Wolf 7.62 ammo. We have three thousand round cases in the wooden crates after the break up of the USSR that were purchased for $120 per case. An AK can shoot crap ammo without any problem, unlike decent guns.
4. No self respecting shooter will shoot an AK, as it is a piece of crap. We have three of these and four SKS rifles that we bought for $120 and $45 respectively about 25 years ago. They have very loose tolerances, therefore they do not jam (see M1 carbine and M1 garand). Unlike a carbine and a Garand, an AK is inaccurate. One can see barrel wobble when viewed from the side. It is a POS.
WTF?! A 6" group at 125 yards WITH IRON SIGHTS is damn good. I call bull crap on that.
Who is talking about Romanian AK's? Sure there are the cheap Eastern bloc and Chinese replica's, but you already know you're buying a knock-off.
A true Kalashnikov, while cheap still go in the low 400 to 500 bucks. And that's the great thing about them. And why they are the preferred weapon of terrorists and guerrilla fighters around the world. Cheap, easy to maintain and deadly.
Wolf ammo?!!! Seriously?! Why, why, why would you use that dirty and abhorrently ill-produced ammo? You need to have an AK if you're using Wolf ammo. They were designed so that they would not jam even after being stuck in mud! And if you're using an AK at ranges more than 150 yds. you're gonna do nothing but get yourself killed. The AK is a close in weapon 100 yds in. As I said earlier if I need to 'reach out' I'll use my LWRC 6.8 OR FN SCAR 16.

Please.
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:40 PM
 
Location: vagabond
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Give a link please for your claim?
what exactly would you like a link to?

the fact that gun control lobbyists go after the appearance of a weapon rather than the functionality is fairly straightforward. that is why they try to ban muzzle brakes, pistol grips, and other things like that––not because they actually make a difference as to how safe you and i are from gun crimes/accidents, but because they "look scary."

EDIT: in fact, gun control legislators are pretty often unable to identify or describe when asked what are the function of those firearm components that they are lobbying to ban.

i am not sure if this is the kind of stuff that you would like links to (this is pretty common knowledge, especially with google at your fingertips), so a clarification would be nice.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:01 PM
 
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Ah, so the AK-74, AK in 308 and AK in 223 were merely "forgotten" by Conn's esteemed legislators? Just say so.
I dont know or care what you're talking about, but ultimately, I asked first. And I wasnt even asking you, I see now looking back.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:28 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I dont know or care what you're talking about, but ultimately, I asked first. And I wasnt even asking you, I see now looking back.
What ARE you asking for???
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:54 AM
 
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What ARE you asking for???
The OP stated, "liberals love to ban 'assault weapons' because of how they look." I didnt know what inspired this statement & so asked for a link.
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Old 06-30-2010, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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What ARE you asking for???
She's using the common debate tactic of making a vague and unsatisfiable request for citation combined with the debate tactic of refusing to accept deductive reasoning as an actual source.

Deductive reasoning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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