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Old 06-29-2010, 02:53 PM
 
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Where do you live? Are you going to accuse Latinos of being lazy welfare hogs?
Um, no, and Im tickled that you only did obliquely. Do you live in, e.g., Alaska? All-Black and Hispanic chefs, etc. there would indicate an interesting employment situation.
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:55 PM
 
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I think you need to look up your political definitions Nazism isn't socialist nationalism. Nazism frowns on any sort of diversity. It's almost the polar opposite of what basic Socialism stands for. I hear a lot of Cubans, Russians, Chinese, and Vietnamese (victims of Communism) talk about why they vote Republican. It's the furthest thing from Communism. Why do you think German immigrants and Germany in general today are so liberal?
And feel free to look up who stormfront endorsed this past election.
Nazism was the opposite side of the same coin as Communism. The very definition of the Nazi Party was National Socialist German Workers' Party
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:56 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Read a little history. . . .history of the democratic party and the republican party. . . .things HAVE changed! Dramatically! What is important is not "what used to be", but what IS, NOW! What is important is coming down the the correct side of "the common people of the U.S.", and as much as the "corporate entities" want to believe they are "just plain folk", they are not! Go to the coal mines of West Virginia, go to the mechanic shops in any city, visit the store clerks, the public school teachers, the University Professors, the city landscape crews. These are the "common folk" that need to be protected from your precious corporate entities, that will use up every natural resourse, every human being in the pursuit of profit, and without a care in the world, so long as they get their "toys" and their castles and their luxury vacations away from the daily grind of sitting behind a mahogony desk in a a palacial structure that they own and control!
I know many blue collar workers, and the majority of them are conservative. To say that the Democratic Party is anti corporate is ridiculous. They are pro government, and the government is pro corporate, pro wealthy, and pro elite. Therefore Democrats are pro corporate. I have read plenty of history and the OP was stating facts thereof. Since when is "what used to be" not important? When it is less than complementary to your party? Liberals throw the racism card around with reckless abandon, and try when ever possible to paint conservatives as racists usually irresponsibly. My point was to show liberals that when it comes to racism they are throwing stones from glass houses.
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:59 PM
 
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Janitors, construction workers, and chefs make good money. They aren't bums by any stretch.

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Um, no, and Im tickled that you only did obliquely. Do you live in, e.g., Alaska? All-Black and Hispanic chefs, etc. there would indicate an interesting employment situation.
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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You'll notice the dems in this thread haven't recklessly played the race card. I condemn Wallace, Thurmond, Helms, etc. But you really can't deny policy wise and socially they'd fit in a lot more with today's right than they would the left.
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:01 PM
 
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Nazism was the opposite side of the same coin as Communism. The very definition of the Nazi Party was National Socialist German Workers' Party
The Nazis werent about economics.

To rescue Germany from the effects of the Great Depression, Nazism promoted an economic third position; a managed economy that was neither capitalist nor communist.[14][15] The Nazis accused communism and capitalism of being associated with Jewish influences and interests.[16] They declared support for a nationalist form of socialism that was to provide for the Aryan race and the German nation: economic security, social welfare programs for workers, a just wage, honour for workers' importance to the nation, and protection from capitalist exploitation.[17]
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Nazism is a politically syncretic variety of fascism, which incorporates policies, tactics and philosophic tenets from left and right-wing politics. Italian fascism and German Nazism reject liberalism, democracy and Marxism.[66] Usually supported by the far right (military, business, Church), fascism is historically anti-communist, anti-conservative and anti-parliamentary.[67] The Nazis' rise to power was assisted by the Fascist government of Italy that began to financially subsidize the Nazi party in 1928.[68]

-- Nazisim wiki article
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:01 PM
 
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It doesn't take a genius to realize that they had the exact same strategy and methods. The only difference was the dictators. Everything they do is divisive and obfuscation.

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Nazism was the opposite side of the same coin as Communism. The very definition of the Nazi Party was National Socialist German Workers' Party
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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You were the ones saying they had problems with employment, and then you talk about how they have such great paying jobs? I'm confused...
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:04 PM
 
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Employment is a problem for minorities with the current depression. Then they are blamed for being on welfare and depressed. But when they get jobs they do really good work. But where is the work for all those people?

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You were the ones saying they had problems with employment, and then you talk about how they have such great paying jobs? I'm confused...
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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And you are a moron if you want to compare today's DNC to Nazism. I have some friends who are children of Holocaust survivors that would spit in your face for saying that.
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