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Old 06-30-2010, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Newport Coast, California
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A question for the environmentalists and leftists.

Why must the US stop drilling in the gulf and stop deepwater drilling yet PEMEX and Petrobas BR (Brazil) continue on and have no plan and no pressure to stop.

I find it funny that envio's and leftists only demand that the US stop then complain that we are dependent on foreign oil. That's right, just let Mexico drill, after all they had a massive spill in the 1970's and it didn't slow them down one bit
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Old 06-30-2010, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Because President Obama only has authority over the US for now.
Until we have the NWO in place with a world leader, each country gets to make their own rules.
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Old 06-30-2010, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Miami / Florida / U.S.A.
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A question for the environmentalists and leftists.

Why must the US stop drilling in the gulf and stop deepwater drilling yet PEMEX and Petrobas BR (Brazil) continue on and have no plan and no pressure to stop.

I find it funny that envio's and leftists only demand that the US stop then complain that we are dependent on foreign oil. That's right, just let Mexico drill, after all they had a massive spill in the 1970's and it didn't slow them down one bit
Why should Norway, Brasil, Mexico, Nigeria, Angola, and Russia stop their offshore drilling ?

They give proper maintenance to their platforms, and have qualified engineers. I don't know what the BP guys were thinking. Maybe they didn't care to make a mistake a destroy the Caribbean, after all... They were not drilling in the shores of the UK.
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Old 06-30-2010, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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The only hypocrisy here is that the OP wants the U.S. follow Mexico and Brazil..So fake.
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Old 06-30-2010, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Newport Coast, California
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The only hypocrisy here is that the OP wants the U.S. follow Mexico and Brazil..So fake.
No, I just don't see how a US ban makes any difference since other countries don't stop either. It is foolish to say, OK, US will stop all drilling in the gulf, but Mexico, please continue. Lefistists only want to hobble the US because they hate its overall success so much. It must be punished into submission. If the goal was protection of "earth" then there would be as much zeal to stop Mexico's deepwater drilling as well considering they had just as bad a spill in the 70's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixtoc_I_oil_spill


But then again, under "progressive" thinking, we would never have flown, developed the car, never traveled to space, never done many things, 'cause there might have been an accident." and worse if the United States was involved, better leave it to China and the emerging world, afterall, don't they deserve it so much more than we.
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Old 06-30-2010, 07:41 AM
 
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No, I just don't see how a US ban makes any difference since other countries don't stop either. It is foolish to say, OK, US will stop all drilling in the gulf, but Mexico, please continue. Lefistists only want to hobble the US because they hate its overall success so much. It must be punished into submission. If the goal was protection of "earth" then there would be as much zeal to stop Mexico's deepwater drilling as well considering they had just as bad a spill in the 70's.
Ixtoc I oil spill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


But then again, under "progressive" thinking, we would never have flown, developed the car, never traveled to space, never done many things, 'cause there might have been an accident." and worse if the United States was involved, better leave it to China and the emerging world, afterall, don't they deserve it so much more than we.
First of all, if you want people to take you seriously I suggest drop the tude.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:09 AM
 
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The U.S. needs to first get their regulatory functions in place. This isn't simple as there is more than one agency (the former MMS) that has authority over various elements offshore drilling permits. As we now know, the oil companies were running amuck and doing as they darn well pleased. That and that alone led to the destruction happening in the GOM.

This entire thing has been a cluster fk from before the first meter of pipe was lain. They were granted a FONSI (finding of no specific incidence) on their environmental review. That's absurd. A well that is deeper than any other and they get a FONSI?

Why would we continue on the same disasterous path while witnessing the worst environmental disaster in our lifetime? Do you honestly not see that the U.S. needs to get their act together before another disaster happens?

If Brazil is drilling in U.S. waters then they need to adhere to the same standards and regulations. So far, those have probably been the most lax in the entire world. Who is to blame for that? Dick C. and the corporation, deregulation loving crowd.


Here is how the Dutch handle spills:

In the Netherlands, the government owns the cleanup equipment, including the skimmers now being deployed in the Gulf.
“If there’s a spill in the Netherlands, we give the oil companies 12 hours to react,” he said.
If the response is inadequate or the companies are unprepared, the government takes over and sends the companies the bill.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:10 AM
 
Location: North America
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A question for the environmentalists and leftists.

Why must the US stop drilling in the gulf and stop deepwater drilling yet PEMEX and Petrobas BR (Brazil) continue on and have no plan and no pressure to stop.

I find it funny that envio's and leftists only demand that the US stop then complain that we are dependent on foreign oil. That's right, just let Mexico drill, after all they had a massive spill in the 1970's and it didn't slow them down one bit

Maybe because Mexico and Brazil drill off their own shores? And President Obama is President of the United States and not Mexico and Brazil.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Long Beach
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Well as soverign nations, Mexico and Brazil can do whatever they like [just like the song].

Is that concept too odd for you to comprehend. Foreign =/= United States of America.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Maybe because Mexico and Brazil drill off their own shores? And President Obama is President of the United States and not Mexico and Brazil.
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Well as soverign nations, Mexico and Brazil can do whatever they like [just like the song].

Is that concept too odd for you to comprehend. Foreign =/= United States of America.
I guess the OP is suggesting that environmentalists should demand Obama invade Mexico and Brazil and impose an offshore drilling moratorium. Otherwise, there's some kind of "hypocrisy" involved.

The ignorance of the right never ceases to amaze.
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