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He can't ban hunting, but he can use his role in regulation making to advance his agenda here and there.
Agreed. He is in a powerful position. We don't really know what these guys are doing behind the scenes.
There are many well funded organizations working along the same lines, focused on animal rights and the ethical treatment of animals. They are extreme, and surprisingly enough, they are having an impact. As an example, consider Peta, the HSUS (which isn't what it claims to be), and look at who they are partnering with in their activism.
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest
Sportsman are also some of the best stewards of the environment.
As much as I'd like to dismiss Sunstien as another left wing kook, the fact that he has a place in this administration tells me someone of importance values his opinion. He is a dangerous individual and his way off center opinions should not be discounted.
A hypothetical statement, in a research paper on the ethics of animal treatment.
I disagree with it, but it'll never happen. He isn't putting a policy forward, but this is his view. Its a fringe view, that'll never make law.
"If we focus on suffering, as I believe that we should, it is not necessarily impermissible to kill animals and use them for food; but it is entirely impermissible to be indifferent to their interests while they are alive. So too for other animals in farms, even or perhaps especially if they are being used for the benefit of human beings. If sheep are going to be used to create clothing, their conditions must be conducive to their welfare. We might ban hunting altogether, at least if its sole purpose is human recreation. (Should animals be hunted and killed simply because people enjoy hunting and killing them? The issue might be different if hunting and killing could be justified as having important functions, such as control of populations or protection of human beings against animal violence.)"
Hunting is necessary for the population control of many species, not to mention there are those who need to hunt for sustenance.
Sportsman are also some of the best stewards of the environment.
As much as I'd like to dismiss Sunstien as another left wing kook, the fact that he has a place in this administration tells me someone of importance values his opinion.
He is a dangerous individual and his way off center opinions should not be discounted.
Oooh please. Can you provide facts on that statement? That don't come from a pro-hunting, pro-gun, site.
Besides that hunters and fisherman pay taxes before it even gets to the store on eqauipment they use. They actaully pay for many of the parks we have plus wildlife would starve i mnay palces if not for them.he amount of money they pay is huge and it benefits even those that don't hunt. Asl any parks and wildlife officer who support land manageent and wildlife.
"but it is entirely impermissible to be indifferent to their interests while they are alive."
I do have to agree with this. The conditions under which animals are "managed" (mismanaged, in truth) in commercial operations in many cases is absolutely horrendous.
Hunting gives resource managers an important tool[16][17] in managing populations that might exceed the carrying capacity of their habitat and threaten the well-being of other species or, in some instances, damage human health or safety.[18] Hunting reduces intraspecific competition for food and shelter, reducing mortality among the remaining animals. Some environmentalists assert[who?] that (re)introducing predators would achieve the same end with greater efficiency and less negative effect such as introducing significant amounts of free lead into the environment and food chain. Hunters often disagree, arguing that hunting is more selective, removing fewer old, sick, or young animals than natural predation. Aldo Leopold, an early environmentalist and hunter, also believed hunting could be used to manage animal populations.
Management agencies sometimes rely on hunting to control specific animal populations, as has been the case with deer in North America. These hunts may sometimes be carried out by professional shooters although others may include amateur hunters. Many U.S. city and local governments hire professional and amateur hunters each year to reduce populations of animals that are becoming hazardous, like deer, in a restricted area, such as neighborhood parks and metropolitan open spaces.
A large part of managing populations involves managing the number and, sometimes, the size or age of animals harvested so as to ensure the sustainability of the population. Tools which are frequently used to control harvest are bag limits and season closures, although gear restrictions such as archery-only seasons are becoming increasingly popular in an effort to reduce hunter success rates
Maybe you would prefer packs of coyotes or mountain lions roaming your neighborhood to control the deer population?
OMG NO. You shouldn't have to work for your food. Steroid meat give me a break. You've never heard of organic I take it?
Why should I have to exchange a paper bill, in order to feed my family, when the resources of my own private property, provides very well to feed my family. You sound jealous. Venison, Wild hog, Elk, that is about as organic as your going to get.
I have quite a few cows, and a couple of bulls. I know what goes through the auctions. You can tell those pumped and those fed only grass, hay and a mineral lick, like I do.
My father-in-law raised turkeys for Plantaion, the feed they supplied and water supplements full of growth steroids.
Maybe you would prefer packs of coyotes or mountain lions roaming your neighborhood to control the deer population?
LOL wikipedia. Well because you see wikipedia as such a reputable source wiki search "ecological niche", you see a mountain lion who lives in the mountains can't just waltz down and live in a city just like that . At least not long term .
how about hunting with only bow and arrow? give the animal more of a sporting chance?
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Steroid meat give me a break. You've never heard of organic I take it?
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