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Old 07-03-2010, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Obama is the only one trying to FORCE this issue,Just like healthcare which Hillary gave up on in the past. Nice try it seems like Obama supporters will continually either blame Bush or use the Race Card to explain his failures.

If Obama was a moderate Dem instead of an ultra liberal that is trying to reinvent this Country into a Socialist State things would be different for him. What He is suggesting is treason and undermining US Sovereignity and rewarding criminals.
There are those that come to his defense because he is half black? Well his half white side is also extremely Liberal and inept.
I get it. The mind numbing hatred reserved for Obama is because of his tenacity and drive for results. You could live with Democrats that "give up" when the resistance they meet exceeds their threshold for pain. I suspected this was the case. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

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Old 07-03-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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You all realize, of course, that some kind of blanket amnesty does not just cover Mexicans (plain old illegals and criminals) who are illegally here. Who else is illegally here that either came in over the border or overstayed their visas that he'll be letting stay here? He can't sign into law something that only gives Mexicans the ability to stay. Watch out!
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Old 07-03-2010, 01:37 PM
 
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Disclaimer: I am a liberal, anti-amnesty Democrat.
I am just watching his speech and honestly, I am just shaking my head. I'm pretty disappointed in him. I am wondering why he calls them "immigrants". Also, he keeps talking about securing the border. I think we can not secure our border. If they don't walk through the desert, they will get border crossing cards and just come in legally and stay for good. It's the same thing. As a legal immigrant myself, I am really appalled at what he's doing here. What do you think about his speech?
i disagree.if we can put men on the moon..we can easily secure the border.
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Old 07-03-2010, 02:39 PM
 
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I get it. The mind numbing hatred reserved for Obama is because of his tenacity and drive for results. You could live with Democrats that "give up" when the resistance they meet exceeds their threshold for pain. I suspected this was the case. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

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Believe what you want. When the RESULTS he seeks undermines US Sovereignity and rewards criminals you can put any spin on it you want but it is what it is. He seems to be sincere in his beliefs, problem is he's sincerely WRONG.

If he were to support deportation for criminal Illegal aliens instead of supporting/making excuses for them and trying to reward their criminality Yes I and many Americans would whole heartedly support him at this. I guess then WE wouldn't be racists? What results do you speak of ?

High Unemployment? Mass foreclosures? Pushing Amnesty? Yes it wasn't during his term that these problems came about , but it's now his job to deal with.
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