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Nearshore skimming vessels are working near the west end of Dauphin Island, the mouth of Mobile Bay, Gulf Shores, Ala., Orange Beach, Ala., and Pensacola, Fla. More than 65,400 gallons of oil-water mix were collected Thursday in the Gulf waters as far as 50 miles off shore.
It's one click. There are daily updates and press conferences there. It explains what has been done and what is currently in place.
The fact is, foreign vessels are already there. Nearshore skimmers are already there. The "berms" that Gov. Jindall was asking for were approved way back in May. The Jones Act doesn't apply in most cases, and when it is, there are fast track procedures in place.
And, as an extra added bonus, from the same website, the Jones Act Fact sheet.
It's one click. There are daily updates and press conferences there. It explains what has been done and what is currently in place.
The fact is, foreign vessels are already there. Nearshore skimmers are already there. The "berms" that Gov. Jindall was asking for were approved way back in May. The Jones Act doesn't apply in most cases, and when it is, there are fast track procedures in place.
I see you are finally admitting, since you posted it several times, that the foreign vessels are working out at 50 miles. The Jones Act needs to be waived for anything within 3 miles of shore AND so they can pull into our ports. So the thread is a failure to call the Jones Act a lie.
oh the boondoggle this is! bottom line here is that 50 odd countries have offered assistance and there are giant swaths of ocean that are not being cleaned and the majority of the offers have not been accepted or approved.
THAT is the issue. Telling the world that Republicans are lying is the diversion!
If there are no government obstacles to overcome, I wonder what the motive would be for this company to delay getting their vessel, that was built for this specific reason, into place and skimming. I find it interesting that they would build it for this purpose, decide to delay getting it there, and then say they're waiting on permits and contracts. How did they get the government to state that they don't have a timetable but will get a report as soon as possible? Is it more likely that company is delaying their work or that there are government obstacles and politicians making half statements to protect their image?
I see you are finally admitting, since you posted it several times, that the foreign vessels are working out at 50 miles. The Jones Act needs to be waived for anything within 3 miles of shore AND so they can pull into our ports. So the thread is a failure to call the Jones Act a lie.
No, it isn't. Look at the context in which it was used by the pundits. Nearshore skimming is already being done.
Again, use the link and find out what is and isn't being done.
In addition, even within 3 miles, the Coast Guard Federal On-Scene Commander (FOSC) may use foreign skimmers when an adequate number and type of U.S. oil spill response vessels are not available. The FOSC does not need to ask the President, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or even the Commandant of the Coast Guard for permission to use foreign skimmer vessels under this authority.
Clear enough now, or do you need a blackboard and chalk?
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No, it isn't. Look at the context in which it was used by the pundits. Nearshore skimming is already being done.
I'm done arguing with you about it. Everything you posted mentioned foreign vessels working out passed the 3 mile range. American flagged vessels are doing the near shore skimming. The Coast Gaurd made a determination to allow foreign vessels to help in the near shore skimming when needed, hence the fast track to the Jones Act waivers. The point being here is that this thread is a huge spin that provides half the truth but tries to come across like the whole story is being told.
I'm done arguing with you about it. Everything you posted mentioned foreign vessels working out passed the 3 mile range. American flagged vessels are doing the near shore skimming. The Coast Gaurd made a determination to allow foreign vessels to help in the near shore skimming when needed, hence the fast track to the Jones Act waivers. The point being here is that this thread is a huge spin that provides half the truth but tries to come across like the whole story is being told.
You're done arguing because I have proven that the OP is correct.
Stay blissfully ignorant.
Again, from the link I posted:
When there is a need but no American vessel is available, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) in the Department of Homeland Security is authorized to waive the Jones Act and bring in a foreign vessel.
The Maritime Administration in the Department of Transportation is responsible for promptly determining, and informing CBP of, the availability of qualified Jones Act vessels for specific transportation requirements described in such waiver requests.
The American maritime industry has not and will not stand in the way of the use of these well-established waiver procedures to address this crisis.
On June 15, 2010, Admiral Thad Allen, USCG, the National Incident Commander for the BP oil spill, announced the development of specific guidance to ensure the accelerated processing of requests for Jones Act waivers. His announcement further streamlines an already streamlined process.
Amazing, the people who cut and run in the face of facts.
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