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Old 07-01-2010, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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125 refineries in limbo.

Is this for real?

Do they have ANY idea what this will do to our economy? Gas prices? Jobs?

This is just unreal.

EPA overturns 16-year-old Texas permit program - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100630/ap_on_bi_ge/us_epa_vs_texas - broken link)

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The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency on Wednesday officially overturned a 16-year-old Texas air permitting program it says violates the Clean Air Act, leaving some of the country's largest refineries in a state of limbo.

Gov. Rick Perry has been using it to drive home his contention that President Barack Obama's administration is overreaching, saying in a statement Wednesday that "Texas will continue to fight this federal takeover of a successful state program."
This is beyond overreaching. This is a concerted effort to destroy the oil industry in this country.
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Old 07-01-2010, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I'm going to the Eno River Festival to stump for BJ Lawson this weekend. Should be fun to watch the crunchy granola smelly hippies gloat over paying more for fuel. Of course, they forget that the poor will be unable to heat themselves this winter and many will die as a result.
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Old 07-01-2010, 04:40 PM
 
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Obama wants to destroy the country so this is just one of many ways that he is going about it.
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Old 07-01-2010, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I can see conservatives would rather drink and eat benzene to avoid doing what is right for the environment, for now and more importantly for the future. The ridiculousness of Texas' permit process is going on right now in my backyard with the gas drilling anywhere and everywhere, and something better be done NOW.

Disclaimer: May be a non-issue for self-absorbed individuals who couldn't care less about environmental implications of lousy laws as passed down to the children.
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Old 07-01-2010, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Obama's EPA? What about Bush's EPA?!!!!!
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Texas has been issuing the permits since 1994 even though it never received the required federal approval. The EPA made clear at least five years ago it believed the permits violated federal air laws, warning Texas and the refinery and petrochemical industry it would take action. The industry, uncomfortable with the uncertainty, sued the EPA in 2008, demanding the agency take action on this and several other programs that remained in limbo.
The EPA was under a court-ordered deadline of June 30 to either approve or disapprove the flexible permit program. On Wednesday, a federal court rejected a last minute appeal by the industry to extend the deadline.
Nuff said. The hyper over-reaction and attempt at a gotcha, just gotcha! BUSH's EPA warned Texas. Again, and again the permits didn't meet the LAW...(you know rule of law and such)...and still the INDUSTRY pushed the law suit. Well, they lost.

SO...Texas AND the industry shut down 125 refineries....not the Administration(s).

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Old 07-01-2010, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Obama's EPA? What about Bush's EPA?!!!!!


Nuff said. The hyper over-reaction and attempt at a gotcha, just gotcha! BUSH's EPA warned Texas. Again, and again the permits didn't meet the LAW...(you know rule of law and such)...and still the INDUSTRY pushed the law suit. Well, they lost.

SO...Texas AND the industry shut down 125 refineries....not the Administration(s).

Ahhh yes facts...
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Old 07-01-2010, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Sorry, but the EPA could have still issued the permits, "approve OR disapprove", instead they chose to shut down the oil industry in Texas.
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Old 07-01-2010, 07:06 PM
 
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Do they have ANY idea what this will do to our economy? Gas prices? Jobs?
Can't be any worse than what happened to the economy, gas prices, and jobs during the Bush years.
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Old 07-01-2010, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And meanwhile the EPA says the air is ok down at the Gulf with the oil spill and dispersant chemicals.
Eat the fish, go to the beach, swim in the water. Just stay away from the tarballs and everything will be ok.

Odors from the BP Oil Spill | EPA Response to BP Spill in the Gulf of Mexico | US EPA
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Old 07-01-2010, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Sorry, but the EPA could have still issued the permits, "approve OR disapprove", instead they chose to shut down the oil industry in Texas.
Why would the EPA issue the Permits if the Industry was not following the law??
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