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Old 07-02-2010, 05:23 PM
 
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At least Bush as up front and honest about his warmongering intentions. Obama on the other hand, is a deception and with respect to U.S. involvment in Iraq and Afghanistan, sounds more like Bush each day. And I voted for the man.
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:32 PM
 
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The fact that the guy is constantly lying in his speeches is sickening.
The fact that not so many people call him out on his lies is sad.
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:34 PM
 
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I despise everyone.
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:35 PM
 
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I despise everyone.
yeah, why not, me to, I think everyone here does also, just read all the threads
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:37 PM
 
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At least Bush as up front and honest about his warmongering intentions.
Do you believe that?! Please read some newspapers 2002-2007 or so.
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Obama on the other hand, is a deception
Specifically, how so?
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and with respect to U.S. involvment in Iraq and Afghanistan, sounds more like Bush each day. And I voted for the man.
Except Obama didnt lead us into those wars.

As far as I know we're still on the timetable to exit Iraq, dont know what the schedule was for Afgh if there was one.

Maybe the news sounds familiar because the discrete situations are similar if not virtually identical.

Are you unhappy because you want the news to be more entertaining, or what?
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:39 PM
 
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At least Bush as up front and honest about his warmongering intentions.<snip>
You mean he didn't lie about the WMDs in Iraq?
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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No fan of Bush here,but at least he wasnt trying to destroy the economy.
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:48 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You mean he didn't lie about the WMDs in Iraq?

Neither did the house of representatives.
Including your queen, Nancy.
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:50 PM
 
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At least Bush as up front and honest about his warmongering intentions. Obama on the other hand, is a deception and with respect to U.S. involvment in Iraq and Afghanistan, sounds more like Bush each day. And I voted for the man.
Which was the primary reason I did not vote for Obama and even eluded to his hawkish positioning in the general election. See the thread, "Obama is a conservative compared to:" in elections.


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As far as I know we're still on the timetable to exit Iraq, dont know what the schedule was for Afgh if there was one.

Maybe the news sounds familiar because the discrete situations are similar if not virtually identical.

Are you unhappy because you want the news to be more entertaining, or what?
When once looks at Obama's positions on our wars in the Middle East back when he first entered the Senate, you would not recognize that man from the one before us today. Now obviously a good deal of this comes from being in the position of President instead of legislator, but I suspect it has at least as much with Obama being just another canned establishment politician. After all it would have been very much worse with "yay, 100 year McCain" in there.

All of these time tables are subject to conditions on the ground and are not set in stone, they are in fact very much conditional and we have been hearing more of this out of the White House each day.

As I pointed out in another thread, Obama was the worst possible choice for President for those who took an anti-war position because the vast bulk of the anti-war movement was in fact from the left. Once Obama was elected, they stowed their signs in the garage now that we are fighting the "good war", and have already forgotten the "bad war" in Iraq that still has 50,000 soldiers and over 100,000 US contractors.

Personally, I saw the writing on the wall long before the election and have maintained this ever since. It is a legitimate area in which the far liberal left have to complain as well as opening the door to those on the right by pointing out that much of the anti-war movement was little more than anti-bush.

As I'm sure you are aware, I'm pretty cynical about politics in general and I can't help but think back towards the summer of 2005 when Democrats ran on a platform of ending our wars in the Middle East. Sadly, once they won overwhelming victory, one could even say a mandate by the people, they kicked back and carried on as though those wars just fell down the memory hole.
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:51 PM
 
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Well, I despise politicians and their partisan hacks.
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