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Old 07-27-2010, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Time for a new governor.
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Insane. Even Republican studies show that same-sex marriage increases revenue for a state.

Same Sex Marriage (http://www.foxandhoundsdaily.com/blog/matt-klink/same-sex-marriage-%E2%80%93-an-economic-windfall-california - broken link)
Bernie Madoff was able to make people think he was getting 20% return on his investments too! This is homosexual propaganda, most homosexuals males are a burden on the system, because they are more likely to have catastrophic diseases.
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:01 PM
 
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Bernie Madoff was able to make people think he was getting 20% return on his investments too! This is homosexual propaganda, most homosexuals males are a burden on the system, because they are more likely to have catastrophic diseases.
And so what do you think should be done with homosexuals? Extermination?
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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If they allow it they will be boycotted and demonized, costing them billions in revenue. Money is going to be more important to them then gay marriages.
LOL, not a chance in hell. Btw damn those boycotts sin Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Vermont and Iowa. Those boycotts are so huge that no one has even heard about it....
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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You support Obama and he doesnt support gay marriage. When you stop supporting him and including him into your outrage then there will be more creditability and stop pretending its only republicans that are against gay marriage.
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:30 AM
 
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I wish I was a divorce attorney

"You do realize that civil unions have the same divorce rate as everyone else. " So? It's a risk they are willing to take.

"One big reason that their is a massive push to get gay mariage recognized in one form or another, is so divorce attorneys can get a bigger piece of the pie." Why not? People are responsible for their marriages, yes? States get more money from taxes due to marriage, businesses get more money from weddings, etc., and divorce attorneys get more money from business. Why not?

"Chew on that for a while." - I chewed on it a long time ago, and I stand by everything I said.

"Their is no common law marriage/partner issues for gay people." - Huh? The ability for them to get the same rights as a heterosexual married persons have is worth the political struggle.

Again, I stand by everything I said.

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You must be a divorce attorney.


You do realize that civil unions have the same divorce rate as everyone else. One big reason that their is a massive push to get gay mariage recognized in one form or another, is so divorce attorneys can get a bigger piece of the pie.

Get your civil unions/marriage rights. The joke will be on you. Their is no common law marriage/partner issues for gay people. Their will be the same relationship issues that will end up as a statistic in divorce court.

Chew on that for a while.
No, they are lecturing "conservatives" (I put it in quotes, as I feel your adjective to describe the anti-gay marriage crowd should be discarded) that they should leave them alone, let them marry. They are not asking you to like them. They are asking you to let them get the same marriage benefits that heteros have.

Don't like homosexuality? Then don't engage in same-sex relations. But nobody should be voting against gay marriage. It is immoral to do so. A person who doesn't believe in gay marriage should not vote in the said election.

"(especially Prop 8 which was voted on by the PEOPLE) " The people were wrong, and the federal courts need to overturn it. Wonder why the Supreme Court is not voted on by the people?

The so-called "gay agenda" is the path to morality.

BTW black civil rights came by with indirect democracy (LBJ pressuring senators into passing the civil rights act), NOT through "mob rule."

And the African-Americans who are against homosexual marriage will see the light and realize that they must allow it to happen unobstructed.

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Becaus gays feel like they should lecture us that homosexuality is a good thing. They accuse us conservatives of trying to indoctrinate our children by saying homosexuality is bad and gays are terrible people. The people under the gay agenda so the very same things they call us hypocrites for. They are pushing the gay agenda onto a population that has wholly rejected. Liberals always talk about respecting the will of the people but not when it comes to gay rights. No we must overturn all laws (especially Prop 8 which was voted on by the PEOPLE) dealing with homosexuality. More double standards.

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Old 07-28-2010, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Ok I have not read every post but enough to give my POV. First I am a conservative and I think gays SHOULD be allowed to get married. Second, marriage is NOT a religious thing, it is a contract between two people that is why you can get married by a justice of the peace or judge, even a ships captain. I will concede to those that do not want it called marriage but civil unions that mean the same thing as marriage I am not sure why people have an issue with that.
I'm more of a borderline Centrist/Libertarian and I completely agree with you.

Anybody who enjoys the privileges of marriage should be more than willing to allow others to enjoy those same privileges. Whether it is called a marriage, civil union, or sparkly rainbows, it does not matter.

What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet


I do not agree with the governor of Hawaii's veto. She chose to be a bigot instead of doing what was best for Hawaii - entending a civil privilege to a group of people.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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I'm more of a borderline Centrist/Libertarian and I completely agree with you.

Anybody who enjoys the privileges of marriage should be more than willing to allow others to enjoy those same privileges. Whether it is called a marriage, civil union, or sparkly rainbows, it does not matter.

What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet


I do not agree with the governor of Hawaii's veto. She chose to be a bigot instead of doing what was best for Hawaii - entending a civil privilege to a group of people.
I wouldn't put it past her if she was PAID OFF by the right wingers or perhaps the uber-wealthy Mormon church. Just like her BFF sarah palin, she worships the almighty dollar over duty to her fellow citizens.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:54 PM
 
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I wouldn't put it past her if she was PAID OFF by the right wingers or perhaps the uber-wealthy Mormon church. Just like her BFF sarah palin, she worships the almighty dollar over duty to her fellow citizens.
The Mormon church's efforts were central to getting Prop 8 passed in California. Did California and/or the feds revoke the tax exempt status yet?
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Old 07-28-2010, 02:10 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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The Mormon church's efforts were central to getting Prop 8 passed in California. Did California and/or the feds revoke the tax exempt status yet?
I wish that it was A LOT EASIER to do that. I'm sure that the mormons have a lot of high powered connections in DC. If you demanded 10% of your members' income tax free and able to buy vast properties in ultra-expensive areas, again tax free, you certainly could have a lot of pull also. Sadly though, I believe that the election laws only cover elections with candidates, not propositions like Prop 8.
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