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Old 07-06-2010, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Then why do straight people get married? if the TRULY loved the other person a piece of paper would NOT MATTER...
many straight people dont 'marry'

do I need a piece of paper from a church or a local government to tell me I love my partner.....NO

the fact is the gays want the BENEFITS... and marriage is a BENEFIT

cant put you lvger on your insurance....but marry the person, you can

get the point

I say abolish all marriages
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Its not just a piece of paper... how would you like it if you were told that you can no longer make any decision concerning your spouse... it wouldn't be a relationship anymore... and that's what a relationship like marriage means... denying someone that privilege is hypocrisy....
NO ONE has EVER been denied making a decision as long as they have a LEGAL POWER OF ATTOURNEY (sp?)



when I was deployed in Iraq...even my wife had to have a POA, otherwise she would NOT BE ALLOWED to make any decisions.....marriage means NOTHING
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:38 PM
 
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NO ONE has EVER been denied making a decision as long as they have a LEGAL POWER OF ATTOURNEY (sp?)



when I was deployed in Iraq...even my wife had to have a POA, otherwise she would NOT BE ALLOWED to make any decisions.....marriage means NOTHING
Did you really think all marriage is is a POA? If so, then maybe you aren't really married... cause the people who want to get married aren't about the POA... when I say decisions, I don't mean just legal decisions... I mean all decisions...
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Did you really think all marriage is is a POA? If so, then maybe you aren't really married... cause the people who want to get married aren't about the POA... when I say decisions, I don't mean just legal decisions... I mean all decisions...
so your saying that a marriage/civil union LICENSE gives you a right to make decisions over somebody.....boy you should never get married then



the fact is if two (or more even) people LOVE each other and are PARTNERS and live with one an other, they why should they need A PIECE OF PAPER to give them PERMISSION to love each other....did you notice that it is a LICENSE????? it isw PERMISSIOn from the government....is that what you asspire to be...a government slave, where you need to ask permission to love someone??????
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:45 PM
 
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Good for them for vetoing the bill. Marriage should be the ONLY form of recognition and only between a man a woman.
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Northeast Ohio
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How ridiculous. did she even give a reason, or just "I hate gays so therefore I will use my governmental powers to tell them what to do!"
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:58 PM
 
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Good. Marriage is a scared tradition, and it's a shame the government had to step in as of late to make decisions when it should have been left to church.
Bad. Marriage, while a sacred tradition in religion, is a different matter in civil society. While religions can decide who to grant marriages to, regardless of genders, each pair of two consenting adults need to be able to marry.

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Good for them for vetoing the bill. Marriage should be the ONLY form of recognition and only between a man a woman.
Bad for her vetoing the bill. State marriage should be a form of recognition for between a man and a woman, between two men, and between two women.
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:04 PM
 
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The Church? LOL!
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Where in the article did you read anything about marriage? Ya, nowhere.
Reread my post carefully, without scalding emotions.
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:05 PM
 
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Hawaii governor vetoes same-sex civil unions bill - U.S. news - Life - msnbc.com

Unreal. And then we have certain conservatives and Republicans on this forum who repeatedly ask, "Why don't the gays just push for civil unions instead of trying to shove marriage down our throats?"
She's a repub, and voters knew for along time that she would never support a SAME SEX Civil union / marriage bill.

Unfortunately, she was the only "worthy" candidate for Governor (the Democrat nominees were not desirable), so that is why she was voted in as governor ( so the lesser of two evils?)
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:07 PM
 
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Bad. Marriage, while a sacred tradition in religion, is a different matter in civil society. While religions can decide who to grant marriages to, regardless of genders, each pair of two consenting adults need to be able to marry.
Then they have civil unions in civil society, but I guess the governor, as quoted in that particular article, is just another name for same-sex marriage and killed it.

It's really ironic how people want to force religion to recognize same-sex marriages. If they want to be married, why use the church that openly discriminate homosexuality?

EDIT: And you just HAD to leave me a visitor's message with the same drivel? Really? Hilarious.
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