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Old 07-09-2010, 02:32 PM
 
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So what's the problem??? If people in LA have a problem with that..they can complain...or move...
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Old 07-09-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: nj
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So , democrats are the abortion party ?
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Old 07-09-2010, 03:27 PM
 
Location: California
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You mean like legislation making it illegal to have a third trimester abortion?
Is that legislating a medical procedure? Or is it just the opposite?
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Old 07-09-2010, 03:28 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Is that legislating a medical procedure? Or is it just the opposite?
Yes,it is forbidding when a person can have an abortion.
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Old 07-09-2010, 03:29 PM
 
Location: California
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Yes,it is forbidding when a person can have an abortion.
So....not the same then.
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Old 07-09-2010, 03:34 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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So....not the same then.
It is government intrusion isn't it?
Isn't government sticking it's nose in the problem?
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Old 07-09-2010, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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....[T]his Tuesday Jindal signed more new laws — the “mandated ultrasound” laws being pushed by the religious right in many states, requiring ultrasound procedures for all women who get abortions.

But Jindal’s anti-abortion laws go a step farther; he also banned malpractice coverage for doctors who perform abortions, and banned abortion coverage by federal insurance pools [not sure what this means, or how he could ban federal coverage of anything].

Little Green Footballs - Bobby Jindal Signs Mandatory Ultrasound Law with No Rape Exemption

Also in Gov. Jindal news, this week he signed a bill which mandates that the "second offense for soliciting a crime against nature would be a felony punishable by up to five years in jail, a maximum fine of $2,000 or both." And a "bill [that] would authorize persons who qualified to carry concealed weapons having passed the training and background checks to bring them to churches, mosques, synagogues or other houses of worship as part of a security force."

Gov. Bobby Jindal signs bills allowing guns in church, changing sex-solicitation penalty | NOLA.com
Sounds good to me.

The only reason I can see for the pro-abortion rights crowd not wanting mandatory ultrasounds for women considering abortion is to keep them ignorant of what they are really doing. Seeing the baby on the ultrasound is likely to push at least some women away from aborting (murdering) their child. The vast majority of abortions, in addition, are not due to rape (or for the mother's health), but because the mother simply doesn't want her child.

I am very ambivalent about gun control, but I cannot see unreasonable harm in allowing trained, government-authorized individuals to carry guns in houses of worship. It could very well prevent crime by being a deterrent.

(Note that I am not a conservative in its strict definition. I believe government intervention is advisable and even necessary in many areas of life.)
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Old 07-09-2010, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Sounds good to me.

The only reason I can see for the pro-abortion rights crowd not wanting mandatory ultrasounds for women considering abortion is to keep them ignorant of what they are really doing. Seeing the baby on the ultrasound is likely to push at least some women away from aborting (murdering) their child. The vast majority of abortions, in addition, are not due to rape (or for the mother's health), but because the mother simply doesn't want her child.

I am very ambivalent about gun control, but I cannot see unreasonable harm in allowing trained, government-authorized individuals to carry guns in houses of worship. It could very well prevent crime by being a deterrent.

(Note that I am not a conservative in its strict definition. I believe government intervention is advisable and even necessary in many areas of life.)
So you're advocating to force a woman to have a medical procedure, even if she doesn't want it, so that they can use emotion (a woman's hormones are out of wack at this point as it is) to force a woman to keep a pregnancy she doesn't want.

I just can't agree with that.

Do you also support WIC, welfare, child care etc. for the women you're forcing to have a child?
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Old 07-09-2010, 05:29 PM
 
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So you're advocating to force a woman to have a medical procedure, even if she doesn't want it, so that they can use emotion (a woman's hormones are out of wack at this point as it is) to force a woman to keep a pregnancy she doesn't want.

I just can't agree with that.

Do you also support WIC, welfare, child care etc. for the women you're forcing to have a child?
This is not an invasive medical procedure. Are you suggesting that a pregnant woman is incapable of using reason once an ultrasound is used? Or do you think that a woman should undergo an abortion on the very least amount of information possible?

Perhaps if women do not want to look at an ultrasound of the life they want to have sucked out of their body they and their sexual partners will be more proactive in contraception control from the begining!
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Old 07-09-2010, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Central, IL
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I say three cheers to Jindal...
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