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Old 07-09-2010, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Originally Posted by SLCPUNK View Post
I'd argue that the public school system has failed if you don't understand what "Socialism" actually means; and it's apparent most of you do not.
Close enough to the radicalism that obama advocates.

Elements of this;

Socialism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

and this;

Communism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

and this:

Fascism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

and this:

Marxist - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

A little bit of each rolled into One Big A** Mistake America.
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Surprisingly, James Carville has come out with very strong citicism of Obama.
I am not surprised at that. He is a true American. The man is married to a Republican. Anyone that can live and marry someone from the other party is pretty balanced.
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Define "socialism".
Why don't you google it since you do not know.

Last edited by Avengerfire; 07-09-2010 at 08:59 PM..
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Surprisingly, James Carville has come out with very strong citicism of Obama.
Hilary in '12?
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Anybody seen the rest of this poll? DEVASTATING for the dems.

Democrats Can't Recover | The New Republic

Just look at the answers to those question. Not one is favorable to obama.

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I’ve just received the top-line numbers of Democracy Corps’ most recent poll. From a Democratic standpoint, there’s hardly any good news.
Dang, November can't get here fast enough.
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:57 PM
 
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What kind of a definition are you looking for?
Obama believes that wealth is concentrated unfairly and has to be redistributed.
And he believes he knows how to redistribute the wealth fairly which is the main idea of socialism.
He and some members of his administration have said that they believe in redistribution of wealth many times.

Some people call him communist out of frustration because socialist doesn't sound strong enough nowadays.
And some people call him "socialist" and "communist" because they're taught to fight against their own best interests.

Income Gaps Between Very Rich and Everyone Else More Than Tripled In Last Three Decades, New Data Show -- Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
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Old 07-10-2010, 07:08 AM
 
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It's called reality. You should get someone to give you a map so you can find it.

Oh I don't have to find it, I'm already there, no need to travel.

I think you got your map at Disney.
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Old 07-10-2010, 07:11 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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Remember when Newsweek Cover said " we are all socialist now"
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Old 07-10-2010, 07:14 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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And some people call him "socialist" and "communist" because they're taught to fight against their own best interests.

Income Gaps Between Very Rich and Everyone Else More Than Tripled In Last Three Decades, New Data Show -- Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
Do you think it is in the best interest for the poor to get poorer and the rich to get richer. Remember the Rich can leave the poor cant.

Heck Do you think Obamas taxes starting next year is going to help increase the wealth of the middle class or hurt them. I say hurt them. The Middle class is already taxed enough thru all the many forms of taxes they pay now. They cant afford to keep getting taxed to death.

Have you ever lived in a communist country? If you have why arent you still living there?
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Old 07-10-2010, 07:28 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Hmmmm 49% of those same people said that he was a strong leader and that he offered a hopeful vision of the future. 46% said he shared their values. 45% of them felt like he was on their side. I dunno...maybe I'm reading the poll wrong

Oh and this is precious. 51% of LV believe that Former President Bush is more responsible for the problems with the economy.

LOL...
Thanks for that interesting poll. Here's what I think of it.

Strong leader? He's never led anything. That is fact. He doesn't know how to lead, that's why he never transitioned from campaigning to governing.

Hopeful vision of the future? People can hope and dream on their own. They don't need someone to offer a hopeful vision when it isn't going to be delivered. You can't live on hopeful visions; people need substance in the form of a paycheck so they can keep their homes, pay their bills, feed their families.

It's scary to think 46% say he sares their values. They must not know what his values are, or they all believe in taking from those who have and giving to those who don't (them).

The 51% you reference must not do any of their own research or thinking. Since they feel he's on their side, share their values and presents a hopeful vision, no wonder they believe what comes out of his mouth: Bush did it. If Obama says so, it must be so.
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