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No, they must have their own category 61 52.14%
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Old 07-10-2010, 11:47 AM
 
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Arab-american organizations want a new category for arabs in the census, but the census refuses.
Honestly I think arabs are brown, not white.But people from Iran and Turkey are white for me.

1. Neither Turks nor Persians are Arabs.

2. Some Persians and Turks are quite brown.
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:06 PM
 
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What about Russians? Most of their country is in Asia.

You're trying to exclusively tie "white" to continental Europe, and that's your prerogative, but I think that a lot of people will disagree with you. A lot.
I'm doing that because, like many others, I believe whites are people of European origin. I believe the term white generally describes people of European origin.

Ethnic Russians are white. Russian Americans are considered European Americans. I don't care if 99% of people disagree with me. That's their loss.
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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Who in America would admit they were French after Freedom Fries?
You think that little petulant fit made the French look bad?
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:13 PM
 
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I'm doing that because, like many others, I believe whites are people of European origin. I believe the term white generally describes people of European origin.

Ethnic Russians are white. Russian Americans are considered European Americans. I don't care if 99% of people disagree with me. That's their loss.

So how do you define a Russian American, or a Russian?

Is Irina Pantaeva white?

http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/la/...va_5184269.jpg
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:16 PM
 
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1. Neither Turks nor Persians are Arabs.

2. Some Persians and Turks are quite brown.
I never called them Arabs
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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So how do you define a Russian American, or a Russian?

Is Irina Pantaeva white?

http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/la/...va_5184269.jpg
A person with ethnic Russian heritage and ancestry.

That woman appears to be East Asian.
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:30 PM
 
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A person with ethnic Russian heritage and ancestry.

That woman appears to be East Asian.

Yes, East Asian from RUSSIA, you know, that country that has most of its land mass in Asia.....borders on Mongolia and China...that Russia.

Born in RUSSIA.

Speaks RUSSIAN as a native language.

Why is she not Russian?
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:34 PM
 
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Yes, East Asian from RUSSIA, you know, that country that has most of its land mass in Asia.....borders on Mongolia and China...that Russia.

Born in RUSSIA.

Speaks RUSSIAN as a native language.

Why is she not Russian?
She is Russian, a Russian citizen. But if she is of East Asian descent, she is not an ethnic Russian.
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:45 PM
 
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She is Russian, a Russian citizen. But if she is of East Asian descent, she is not an ethnic Russian.

So only white Slavs can be considered Russian, and that does not include Belarussians or Ukranians born in Russia, or Volga Germans, or any other group that comes from Russia or members of any group that has lived in Russia for generations.

Again, what is an ethnic Russian? Is a Jew born and raised in Moscow to Moscow-born parents, grandparents and great-grandparents Russian?

Was Pushkin Russian? After all, he was part black.........
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Old 07-10-2010, 01:36 PM
 
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Yes, East Asian from RUSSIA, you know, that country that has most of its land mass in Asia.....borders on Mongolia and China...that Russia.

Born in RUSSIA.

Speaks RUSSIAN as a native language.

Why is she not Russian?
For the same reason why Boers and English of South Africa , born there , speaking Afrikaneer or English , tracing their roots back there for centuries etc
are considered white/Europeans and not Africans.
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