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Old 07-11-2010, 10:16 AM
 
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She's baaaack. Ms. "Im all about socializing- oops- the government taking over" Maxine Waters has authored a provision that would " create at least 20 new offices and up to 29 if every Treasury agency is required to create a minority office".

from FOXNews.com - Financial Overhaul Provision to Promote Diversity Hiring in Federal Agencies Stirs Backlash

"In an editorial, The Wall Street Journal accused Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., author of the provision, of trying to politicize the Federal Reserve.
"The Waters provision will also give Congress and the White House a new and powerful lever to influence the operation of the 12 regional Fed banks," the newspaper wrote. "Accusations of racial or gender indifference, much less outright bias, are politically deadly."

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from PressDemocrat.com | View topic - Maxine Waters is at it again..... (http://forum.pressdemocrat.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2107&p=24107 - broken link)





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Great more government waste and more politicizing where it does not need to be.



Why do we have to go down this road? Now we need quotas in the work place based on gender and race? Now we need frickin Diversity Czars?! Notice how Waters defends this by saying the people hired will be responsible for employment, management and business activities of the agencies... um, Id say that could be a potential problem. First, she says they will really not have any power and then says that. How in the hell are quotas in the workplace beneficial to our society. Its bs. This is all about expanding power and influence.



I dont know who makes up her district, but I will be saddened if she is re-elected next time shes up for it. Last I checked, we are still the United States of America, and mostly still a free Republic. How we have someone who has admitted she is for government taking over and running companies, in office is just beyond me. Its really a shame and with many others like her making decisions and policies, it further proves that we are at a cross roads in America. The people will either continue electing these fools and face an ever-growing government with even more power and control over our lives, or we can head back down the right path of taking the power back.

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Old 07-11-2010, 10:21 AM
 
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if the financial services industry cant get it done, then she will.

i was surprised at that 17.2 number, i thought it would be lower then that.

i have no problem with hiring quotas and affirmative action. in my opinion, if you have 2 equal candidates, until you have similar numbers between whites and women/minorities, you should lean towards hiring the minority/women.
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Old 07-11-2010, 10:28 AM
 
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if the financial services industry cant get it done, then she will.

i was surprised at that 17.2 number, i thought it would be lower then that.

i have no problem with hiring quotas and affirmative action. in my opinion, if you have 2 equal candidates, until you have similar numbers between whites and women/minorities, you should lean towards hiring the minority/women.
I dont think is just about hiring more females and minorities. I think this is about influence and power. I also think affirmative action isnt that great for our society. Why should race, gender or anything else other than knowledge and character have anything to do with hiring someone? I am all for the common sense approach of equal opportunity and following laws of not judging someone by race/gender, but this diversity czar nonsense and affirmative action does not belong in the work place, especially the federal reserve.

Water is a proud supporter of ACORN, took part in the refusal to regulate Fannie/Freddie, and is a socialist. I dont trust anything this woman does and I dont trust her motives. Her motives are all about power and influence. Socializing the country.
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Old 07-11-2010, 10:42 AM
 
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I dont think is just about hiring more females and minorities. I think this is about influence and power. I also think affirmative action isnt that great for our society. Why should race, gender or anything else other than knowledge and character have anything to do with hiring someone? I am all for the common sense approach of equal opportunity and following laws of not judging someone by race/gender, but this diversity czar nonsense and affirmative action does not belong in the work place, especially the federal reserve.

Water is a proud supporter of ACORN, took part in the refusal to regulate Fannie/Freddie, and is a socialist. I dont trust anything this woman does and I dont trust her motives. Her motives are all about power and influence. Socializing the country.
thats not how the country works. if there was no aa or quotas, you think these companies would hire minorities? i dont know if they would, which is why they should remain in place.

this is still a predominant white country. races tend to stick together, help each other out. if you got whites hiring, they will lean white, therefore cotninuing the status quo, which prevents minorities from pursuit of happyness, since they are unable to get a position since the person who hires has a bias that isnt kept in check.

these requirements eliminate that bias, or help to eliminate it at least.

i also dont think it comes down to just race as well.

for example, there should be quotas and affirmative action for males in college, and there should be quotas and affirmative action for women in the business world.

got to even the playing field. call it socialist or whatever, i call it equal chance.
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Old 07-11-2010, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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quit bitchin, only 20 offices at $1million per office, thats only $20million

print it and spend it
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Old 07-11-2010, 10:46 AM
 
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if the financial services industry cant get it done, then she will.

i was surprised at that 17.2 number, i thought it would be lower then that.

i have no problem with hiring quotas and affirmative action. in my opinion, if you have 2 equal candidates, until you have similar numbers between whites and women/minorities, you should lean towards hiring the minority/women.
Obviously not an unemployed white guy! What nonsense. Discriminate in order to eliminate discrimination ... another example of left wing lunatic logic.

Don't worry ... our White House diversity program will end the debate real soon ... when nobody has a freaking job ... then we'll have achieved total EQUALITY!!!
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Old 07-11-2010, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well I hope they at least check the math level of people before putting diversity over knowledge, especially in the financial area.

Education and knowledge doesn't seem to be a big issue when it comes to government hiring.
Maybe that's why there's so much waste and fraud in government programs..we don't have skilled people running them.
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Old 07-11-2010, 11:01 AM
 
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thats not how the country works. if there was no aa or quotas, you think these companies would hire minorities? i dont know if they would, which is why they should remain in place.

this is still a predominant white country. races tend to stick together, help each other out. if you got whites hiring, they will lean white, therefore cotninuing the status quo, which prevents minorities from pursuit of happyness, since they are unable to get a position since the person who hires has a bias that isnt kept in check.

these requirements eliminate that bias, or help to eliminate it at least.

i also dont think it comes down to just race as well.

for example, there should be quotas and affirmative action for males in college, and there should be quotas and affirmative action for women in the business world.

got to even the playing field. call it socialist or whatever, i call it equal chance.
Hiring should NOT be based on anything but knowledge and the ability to do the job, as well as character. NOT race. NOT gender.

Why does the playing field need to be evened? Sure, there will always be those who will be racist unfortunately. But even playing field? This is life. There is no even playing field. Some are born into wealthy families, some get lucky, some fail, some fail and keep trying and eventually succeed.

This falls right into Obama and others belief of why should one nation be better than another.. My family wasnt rich, and im not rich. I have my own struggles and i get through them.

We already have laws in place to take on biasedness and equal opportunity. Why the heck do we need to spend more money to create "diversity czars"? The government should not have the power to do this. And this is just the beginning. You think its going to end here? Of course not, inch by inch, the power and control grows. Remember, if it were Water's choice, the government would be running companies at its choosing.
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Old 07-11-2010, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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waters needs to retire
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Old 07-11-2010, 11:09 AM
 
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thats not how the country works. if there was no aa or quotas, you think these companies would hire minorities? i dont know if they would, which is why they should remain in place.

this is still a predominant white country. races tend to stick together, help each other out. if you got whites hiring, they will lean white, therefore cotninuing the status quo, which prevents minorities from pursuit of happyness, since they are unable to get a position since the person who hires has a bias that isnt kept in check.

these requirements eliminate that bias, or help to eliminate it at least.

i also dont think it comes down to just race as well.

for example, there should be quotas and affirmative action for males in college, and there should be quotas and affirmative action for women in the business world.

got to even the playing field. call it socialist or whatever, i call it equal chance.
More nonsense. Companies are all about profits ... not discrimination. They choose the best available person for the slot they have to fill for the least amount they have to pay ... PERIOD.

The more experience a person has, the more hats they can wear, the more likely they are to be hired in a difficult employment environment which now heavily favors employers due to the large pool of unemployed, where there are hundreds of applicants for a job opening. And you want to claim that a white guy will get preference because he's white? I got news for you .. it's the other way around, thanks to the insanity you pawn off as legitimate.

You assume there is a such thing as equal ... rarely is that the case. There are always differences in candidates ... their experience ... their backgrounds, there personal style ... and their work ethic and history are a part of that ... and the manner in which the present themselves.

A company that is true to itself and to all it's other employees has an obligation to hire the best candidate. To do otherwise, for any reason is a disservice to everyone.

Think this nonsense you spread is truthful? Look at the NBA ... think those white guys that own those teams racially discriminate against minorities? How about the NFL? MLB? These are the highest paid professions in the country, and I see no discrimination going on there. But somehow that all changes when dealing with OTHER corporations and businesses? They hire who they think will be the best return on their dollar ... PERIOD.
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