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Old 07-13-2010, 09:50 AM
 
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Your ignorance is showing...again.

California law prohibits the taping of anyone without their knowledge.
Not in public places. That office is a public place.
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Old 07-13-2010, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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No, makes me go...what are you talking about? Examples please.
Seriously?!!

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Old 07-13-2010, 09:54 AM
 
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Your ignorance is showing...again.

California law prohibits the taping of anyone without their knowledge.
Show me your rebuttal to this:

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Generally, it is perfectly legal to videotape or photograph any person and anything while on public property, except:
  • You cannot take pictures of areas that are usually considered private such as bedrooms, bathrooms, changing rooms, locker rooms, hotel rooms and so on
  • Certain public places have banned the use of cameras such as mass transit systems, courthouses, capital buildings, secured government buildings, jails or prisons unless you obtain written permission
  • You cannot film or photograph if it interferes with police, fire, medical or emergency operations
Photography or Video Taping Consent - Lawyers.com
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:05 AM
 
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Not true. Videotaping without the consent of both parties in a confidential session is illegal.
Actually I think you can videotape in a public place, but you can't record a conversation or communication, this includes public places. So if they had no audio, it wouldn't be illegal, since they did, it is illegal. Here is the California code.

See Cal. Penal Code § 632. The statute applies to "confidential communications" -- i.e., conversations in which one of the parties has an objectively reasonable expectation that no one is listening in or overhearing the conversation. See Flanagan v. Flanagan, 41 P.3d 575, 576-77, 578-82 (Cal. 2002). A California appellate court has ruled that this statute applies to the use of hidden video cameras to record conversations as well. See California v. Gibbons, 215 Cal. App. 3d 1204 (Cal Ct. App. 1989).

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/california-recording-law
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Actually I think you can videotape in a public place, but you can't record a conversation or communication, this includes public places. So if they had no audio, it wouldn't be illegal, since they did, it is illegal. Here is the California code.

See Cal. Penal Code § 632. The statute applies to "confidential communications" -- i.e., conversations in which one of the parties has an objectively reasonable expectation that no one is listening in or overhearing the conversation. See Flanagan v. Flanagan, 41 P.3d 575, 576-77, 578-82 (Cal. 2002). A California appellate court has ruled that this statute applies to the use of hidden video cameras to record conversations as well. See California v. Gibbons, 215 Cal. App. 3d 1204 (Cal Ct. App. 1989).

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/california-recording-law
Thank you. I stand corrected. However, this does confirm the videotaping was indeed illegal.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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California Attorney General Jerry Brown cleared Vera of wrongdoing in a report earlier this year. Brown found that, though Vera appeared sympathetic to the "pimp and prostitute" during the taped meeting, he immediately notified the police of the conversation. Brown's investigation also found that the O'Keefe videos were "significantly edited."

Former ACORN employee sues O’Keefe and Giles | Raw Story
Good. I hope he wins.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:25 AM
 
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Thank you. I stand corrected. However, this does confirm the videotaping was indeed illegal.
The taping was illegal. If anything this proves that O'Keefe and Giles are discredited and are not objective reporters. You can safely assume anything they produce, whether illegal or legal, is distorted.

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Old 07-13-2010, 10:33 AM
 
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Actually I think you can videotape in a public place, but you can't record a conversation or communication, this includes public places. So if they had no audio, it wouldn't be illegal, since they did, it is illegal. Here is the California code.

See Cal. Penal Code § 632. The statute applies to "confidential communications" -- i.e., conversations in which one of the parties has an objectively reasonable expectation that no one is listening in or overhearing the conversation. See Flanagan v. Flanagan, 41 P.3d 575, 576-77, 578-82 (Cal. 2002). A California appellate court has ruled that this statute applies to the use of hidden video cameras to record conversations as well. See California v. Gibbons, 215 Cal. App. 3d 1204 (Cal Ct. App. 1989).

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/california-recording-law
and I'll bet you found this with just a simple google search, something that some posters have an aversion to as it might educate or enlighten. Good post...
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:37 AM
 
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They didn't do anything illegal. Video taping is allowed in a public place and an ACORN office is a public place.
Now that you have been provided with accurate info and you must concede that you are wrong, what about the fact that it was all a big fat lie anyway proliferated by Faux News? Nothing to comment about that?
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Selective editing and lying by omission is perfectly acceptable - even awarded an Oscar - when it's done in support of left-wing causes. When done in support of right-wing causes, however, it's "illegal," "fabricated" and they "should sue."

Things that make you go, "Hmmm....."
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No, makes me go...what are you talking about? Examples please.
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...crickets...

About what I expected from you, sicko.
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