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Old 07-13-2010, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Yes, a law degree from the most competitive law school in the country means your smart. Where did you go to school?

Again, there are legitimate concerns and criticisms and there is undermining of the President. If Harvard law school is not good enough for you, perhaps your standards are a tad high.
That Harvard Law School always reminds me of my niece going up against two snooty graduates of that school trying to get a job as prosecutor for the SEC. They laughed at her when she told them that her degree was from Cleveland State. Of course, you know who got the job. She had prosecuted some very successful cases for the Ohio EC and the people in charge in Chicago knew her background and had even used one of her cases in toto to get a successful federal case.

Yep, the most important thing in life is the school you went to. However, in this case it was her individual abilities that won her the job. In the case of Obama we are seeing many of his lacks come to the fore.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Word Traveler via Haslet TX.
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Maybe... it might instead be that he thought he had powerful support for his agenda, but was masterfully played for a fool due to his arrogance, incompetence, and inexperience. Matt Taibbi did a pretty good job of exposing how Wall Street ended up pulling Obama's strings. Obama's either a masterfully deceptive liar and was working for the robber barons all along, or he is woefully inept and was totally played. Neither case makes him presidential material.

End result: the robber barons got exactly what they wanted, so Obama's coming after the middle class to pay for his increasingly socialistic programs.

He had support for what folks THOUGHT WAS HIS AGENDA.

Folks thought they were getting an FDR but instead we are getting Bush part III.

No one knew the debt he owed to big business for getting elected--------------You all saw McCain sell his sould too. McCain of 2000 was man to respect McCain of 2008 was an @$s clown. All the deals with the devil you have to make to get elected wear on a person.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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His AGENDA for America.....IS WHAT undermines his presidency.
His arrogance undermines it.
His LYING.
His Nobel Prize he didn't deserve.
His highly secretive past, that HE has sealed from public view.
His blatant disliking of Capitalism, Democracy, the Constitution and Western culture.
His blatant favoritism for illegals and other criminals.
His world apology tour last year.
His form of "transparency."
His desire of a civilian militia...created by HIM to enforce His will?
His number of radical, Mao-loving czars and other radicals he's appointed.
His past and present affiliations with ANTI-American, revolutionaries and those who just HATE America.
His window of opportunity to further weaken America....for those who made sure he would win the Oval office.
His handling of oil gushers.
His RAMMING Obamacare down the throats of the American people!
Cap & Trade?

The list goes on and on, but I'll stop with just these few, for now.

HE.....is the ONE......undermining HIS OWN Presidency!
I am not allowed to rep you so lets just say, "Great job of listing his real problems".
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Were we ever really winning the war in Iraq? I mean, really?
Is your post an attempt at deflection? Why, yes, I think it is.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:35 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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He had support for what folks THOUGHT WAS HIS AGENDA.

No one knew the debt he owed to big business for getting elected
EVERYONE should have known who Obama's top contributors were.

Bankers and academics at top of donor list | World news | The Guardian

If you didn't know, you weren't paying attention.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Ruffling a few feathers, are you?
How are your feathers doing right now?
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:36 AM
 
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The NASA memo proves the guy is either a complete dolt or insane. LOL, Nasa means " Nurturing Arab Self Awareness". as heard on The Factor last nite.
We don't have his school or college records and papers and anybody can shmooze his way through college if he has the right connections. Bush and Obama are proof of this.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:38 AM
 
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The anti-Obama crowd hated him even before he stepped into the Oval Office.

I think that even those who didn't vote for George W (in the beginning) gave him the respect that the office of POTUS demands...this was not the case with President Obama from day one.

From the date of his election, President Obama had a slew of strong oppostion from the likes of the Tea Partiers and the bitter Republicans. Many have used the failures that occured under George W and simply passed the blame along to hang around President Obama's neck.
As more and more comes about what that Obamacare really is I think you will see more and more people going after him. He did push Harry Reid and his labor leaders to work that one up in Dirty Harry's locked office, didn't he. As more people see just what this one will do to them they will turn on him in increasing numbers every day.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:44 AM
 
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Counting the number of Harvard graduates in this administration (including czars and appointees), and its failure, might lead one to reconsider Harvard as a top school. Sure, it leads to power; but, the incompetance and corruption graduated by that ivy league school is nothing short of embarrasing. Kagan is the most recent nominee example.
A rep from me you can't have but I think you have pointed out the real problem in all this garbage. Of course, we can find many, like Cloward and Piven in the background of Obama and too many like them come from Columbia, also. Just think, I once considered going to Columbia but decided against that advanced degree.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:50 AM
 
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How much of this is verifiable fact and how much is opinion? How much of it is opinion and falsehood propagated by the very forces out to undermine his presidency so they may increase their power?

The following examples provided fall in to the category of false, or unprovable opinion to stoke the fires of rage:

Arrogance-- Sorry, This is a (in my opinion) a personal attack that has nothing to do with job performance. It's propagated based on personal dislike of the president-- or perhaps sometimes, racism.

Lying-- I really doubt you can provide an independently non-partisan verified lie. I can however come up with 20 right wing lies that undermine the Presidency (see: Death Panels)

Nobel Prize-- You should take this up with the Nobel Commission. He didn't award it to himself

Secretive Past-- There is nothing secretive about his past. His entire biography is available. Sorry, this is tin foil hat stuff. More falsehoods designed to undermine consumed by the conspiracy loving masses.

Dislike of Capitalism,etc -- Unprovable false myth again propagated to undermine.

I could continue... This is another post that proves the point that lies have been used to undermine the presidency and have been consumed by a mass audience unable to think critically.
Yep, we know some of his history up to finishing of high school from the pen of Bill Ayers as his ghost writer and very little less after high school. Has he proved that he attended any of the colleges people talk about? What kind of records have been used for that proof.

We know that he was a very successful organizer in Chicago and that he represented ACORN as a lawyer and in training their people. We know he traveled for a year to Pakistan in 1981 but not what nation's passport he traveled on. We do know that he was the farthest left voter in the Senate, when he even voted.

We don't know anything about his life other than what he and Bill told us and yet you talk about knowing all about his early life.
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