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View Poll Results: Do you agree with comparing President Obama to Adolf Hitler?
Yes 23 24.73%
No 68 73.12%
Not sure 2 2.15%
Voters: 93. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-14-2010, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Until some President wants to put millions of a group of people in ovens and torture them, NO President should be compared to Hitler. Period. I strongly condemn anyone doing this. I dont care what "similarities" there are between their politics. Comparisons to Hitler, should only be used for the most evil, vile beings imaginable that wish to exterminate millions of men/women/children.
Now we disagree, to some extent. Until the appointment of Donald Berwick I could easily have agreed with you and driven on by. I agree about not comparing these two men, but when Berwick had to be appointed that soon before they start taking all that money from Medicare, as called for by Obamacare, I have to wonder about the ovens of Poland. Has Berwick not said many times, just like Zeke Emanuel said, that treatment should be based on how contributive to society one may be? Well both of them have said that the older people are the less care they should be given ahead of others. I am 77 years old and I take those statements as being directed right at me and others older or equal to me.

Do you not know about all the ways the lefties compared Bush to Hitler? A little turnaround may be necessary to waken them.
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Well it doesn't take any brain power to compare someone you don't like to Hitler. It's the ignorant persons bestest insult EVER!!!
Are you admitting that the lefties of the Bush years who continually compared him to Hitler were ignorant persons? I don't think so, coming from you, but you do need to stop and think about what it was like during the Bush years from people on the left.
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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1. Hitler was a socialist. He hated "Bolshevics" but strongly supported national socialism. Obama, like Hitler, is a socialist.

2. Hated homosexuals. Wrong. The SA and SS was full of homosexuals, just like the Obama administration. Hitler publically derided homosexuals, but his regime was loaded with him. Ernst Rhome (sp) was a flamer.

3. Hates Jews. Obama hates Jews as well. See the current support for the Nation of Islam and the treatment of Israel.

4. Emphasized Christianity as a national religion. Did he? Keep in mind that Hitler sent many Catholic priests to the death camps as well as Jews. He used religion as a tool for state propaganda but never looked to relgion for faith. Like Obama, who faked being a Christian for 20 years for political expediency, Hitler used religion as a propaganda prop.

5. Hated workers unions. Yep. There you have a difference. Also the difference being that as a result, Hitler, prior to WW2, led Germany to economic prosperity, while Obama has destroyed the US economy. Perhaps Obama can take a few lessons from Hitler.

6. Touted his military experience. Wrong. Hitler hated the elite command of the German army and vice versa. He was widely despised by the the generals of the Wehrmacht, thus his need to develop his own personal army, the SS. Interestingly, Obama, like Hitler, fears the military and wants to develop his own civilian army, similar to the SS.

7. Saw the world in black and white. Wrong. That is why Hitler, despite touting the "purity" of the Aryan people, allied himself with Italy and Japan- somewhat the antithesis of "black and white". Further, the USSR was initially an ally of Hitler, and supplied him with natural resources right up to the invasion of Russia. Lastly, Hitler enlisted Muslims to carry out his fight against the Jews. There were two Muslim SS divisions (one from Croatia- they deserved what they got at the hands of the Serbs) and the Arabs were sympathetic to Hitler. Hitler was politically expedient, like Obama, and turns his colors in a second to do whatever will benefit him the most. He is a shameless opportunist, like Hitler.

8. Operated on ultra nationalism. Obama operates on ultra internationalism- same thing. Both seek to dominate the population they presumed to lead by restricting the liberty of the citizens of thier nations at the expense of central authoritarian control.


There you have it- Obama is pretty much the same as Hitler. The funny thing is that both Hitler and Obama were foriegn born relative to the countries they led.
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I still can't rep you but, damn, what a right on post. I don't expect to read a better one on C-D today or maybe this week.
I'm not sure why you think his post is so "right on".

Hitler did hate homosexuals, they got sent to concentration camps the same as the other undesirables. Ersnt Rohm was in fact a homosexual, he also got put to death. The Sa was loaded with Homosexuals but I wouldn't say the SS was. The SA got reduced to almost nothing once Hitler obtained power so it's a mute point anyway.

Hitler did put some importance on religion. Any Priests that got sent off were more then likely very anti-Hitler, it wasn't a matter of national policy. Hell, any anti-Hitler Wehrmacht Officers got the ax as well, doesn't mean he was anti-military. Remember, almost half of the German population were Catholics. When Hitler started to exterminate the mentally disabled the Catholic Church asked him to stop, he did. Hitler was a Catholic himself.

The thing that really steams my clams about this billboard nonsense is the outrage appears to only be aimed at the comparison to Adolf Hitler. Like Vladimir Lenin was an OK guy. Geeze.
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Clever for an Iowan.

It's stupid to compare Obama to Hitler just as it's stupid to compare the Tea Party to the KKK. The sign is immature, out of line, and it's going to backfire.
I agree with you about the backfiring just as I agree with the states that are considering laws like the SB 1070 from Arizona that today were told not to do it by the man from Immigration Enforcement who said he wouldn't look into reports from Arizona. That whole thing is going to backfire on the DOJ before it is over. Why do I say that? Because Fox isn't about going to let crap like this die and will continue to talk about it.

i don't remember much from the media about the words that were continually reported from members of the left lean. Now the media is jumping in with the Dems, Hollywood, and other left leaners and making all kinds of noise about that sign. I suppose enough people don't watch Fox to keep them from doing what you say will happen but I wonder if enough take part with the MSM to do much about this sign.

I don't suppose you have seen anything today about what other Tea Party groups are saying about that sign. If you watch Fox, however, you have seen much of that.
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:49 PM
 
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No, comparing Obama to Hitler is ridiculous. I am VERY opposed to almost every single thing Obama and the administration has down; it borders on criminal in my opinion.

However bringing up some word like Hitler doesn't solve anything. I can't even think why someone would compare the two. The only thing I can think of is they both wrote books before they got into power.

If Obama is a Hitler than so was Bush. Bush pushed Nationalism...Obama is extending Socialism. Both parties don't want democracy anymore...we are just stupid enough to fight over what they tell us to fight over.
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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"Yes, we can!" That's a slogan. What did it mean?
So now you drag out a link that compares liberals to Hitler! Too hilarious!
Class warfare? Hitler and the Nazis wanted to give Germans dignity and take back what they felt belonged to them.
Obama trying to use the wealthy as an important tread in his tire to control will see many of the middle class joining forces with the wealthy after the first Obamacare taxes go into effect next January. It is so interesting how Dirty Harry and the union bosses who did so much writing in that "law" intend to finance the insurance for those who didn't have it. If you don't know about that part maybe you need to check it out. They are going to allow those who have company supplied health insurance to pay income taxes on every cent of money the company pays for them. Hey, that is going to put a lot of them in higher income tax brackets along with paying so much more even in their old brackets.

This is the very kind of thing that Hitler did so much of in his early years as Chancellor of Germany.

I don't like that sign but I sure can see some real places to make comparisons.
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:53 PM
 
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I'm not sure why you think his post is so "right on".

Hitler did hate homosexuals, they got sent to concentration camps the same as the other undesirables. Ersnt Rohm was in fact a homosexual, he also got put to death. The Sa was loaded with Homosexuals but I wouldn't say the SS was. The SA got reduced to almost nothing once Hitler obtained power so it's a mute point anyway.

Hitler did put some importance on religion. Any Priests that got sent off were more then likely very anti-Hitler, it wasn't a matter of national policy. Hell, any anti-Hitler Wehrmacht Officers got the ax as well, doesn't mean he was anti-military. Remember, almost half of the German population were Catholics. When Hitler started to exterminate the mentally disabled the Catholic Church asked him to stop, he did. Hitler was a Catholic himself.

The thing that really steams my clams about this billboard nonsense is the outrage appears to only be aimed at the comparison to Adolf Hitler. Like Vladimir Lenin was an OK guy. Geeze.

Okay-

Let's compare Obama to Lenin or Stalin then. Tyrants are tyrants. Perhaps a more appropriate comparison would be Pol Pot- he was a misguided professor who just wanted to change Cambodia. Let's start to get a little worried if a minority ethnic group is given the power to disrupt elections, as they may step beyond that and begin genocide. Ooops! I guess that starting point has already happened with Obama too!

Why is this guy so similar to so many tyrants? Perhaps because he is a tyrant.

If people want to stop the comparisons to famous tyrants, perhaps Obama should stop acting like one.
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:54 PM
 
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Has anyone taken umbrage with Bammer being compared to Lenin?

LOL!
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Zürich, Schweiz
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I still can't rep you but, damn, what a right on post. I don't expect to read a better one on C-D today or maybe this week.

I feel like I'm trying to talk to bricks here...
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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You've just described the rabid right element of the Tea Party. The teabaggers insist that they're "mainstream Americans" yet they hardly ever condemn this kind of radically skewed hogwash.

Tea Party = retired white guys griping about how tough they've got it.


Wingnuts?

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I can see that you haven't seen even 5 minutes on Fox today. They have been reporting all kinds of Tea Party groups that have come out against that one. I guess you really think that all the Tea Party groups are part of one group. You are totally wrong there but you don't want them to gain too much more power because then they may become national.
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