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View Poll Results: Do you agree with comparing President Obama to Adolf Hitler?
Yes 23 24.73%
No 68 73.12%
Not sure 2 2.15%
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Old 07-14-2010, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I dont compare just obama to the hitler...I compare TODAYS liberals to the nasi's of yesteryear (national socialists the FACT is HISTORY has shown us what happens when you turn a blind eye.
It is exactly why I compare "conservatives" to Hitler.
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Old 07-14-2010, 06:14 PM
 
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Personally I hate conservatives and Liberals. But conservatives are somewhat by a thread trying to leave this country in a better shape than they started with liberals are just trying to destroy it and make it into a utopian socialist paradise. 3rd position is what we need!
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Old 07-14-2010, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Hyenas have a different idea of a better world. And we liberals/progressives don't see eye to eye with them for those very reasons.
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Old 07-14-2010, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Hitler didn't take guns from the people wch. .
yes he did


"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations,


Nazi Weapons Act of 1938 (Translated to English)

Classified guns for "sporting purposes".
All citizens who wished to purchase firearms had to register with the Nazi officials and have a background check.
Presumed German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted Nazis from the gun control law.
Gave Nazis unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not be owned by private persons.
The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by bureaucrats.
Juveniles under 18 years could not buy firearms and ammunition.
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Old 07-14-2010, 06:39 PM
 
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GunCite: The Myth of Nazi Gun Control
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Old 07-14-2010, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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ok some guy wrote an OPINION piece about the nazi's and gun control

even he ADMITS that gun control was there..he just OPINIONS that is wasnt needed

""""Gun control, the Law on Firearms and Ammunition, was introduced to Germany in 1928 under the Weimar regime (there was no Right to Arms in the Constitution of 1919) in large part to disarm the nascent private armies,""""

"""The 1928 law was subsequently extended in 1938 under the Third Reich (this action being the principal point in support of the contention that the Nazis were advocates of gun control). However, the Nazis were firmly in control of Germany at the time the Weapons Law of 1938 was created. Further, this law was not passed by a legislative body, but was promulgated under the dictatorial power granted Hitler in 1933. """"


all he does is argue that it was unneccessary




here is hitlers OWN WORDS


"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations,


this is the act of 1938

Nazi Weapons Act of 1938 (Translated to English)

* Classified guns for "sporting purposes".
* All citizens who wished to purchase firearms had to register with the Nazi officials and have a background check.
* Presumed German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted Nazis from the gun control law.
* Gave Nazis unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not be owned by private persons.
* The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by bureaucrats.
* Juveniles under 18 years could not buy firearms and ammunition.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:13 PM
 
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There is no comparison between Hitler and Obama, just as there was none between Bush and Hitler. One can disagree with a President's policies without resorting to making a distorted comparison such as this.
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:28 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Hitler didn't take guns from the people wch. Nationalizing corporations? I thought the democrats just let them ship their companies overseas so they can pay lower wages.


but hitler didnt like the jews, and I dont see obama supporting Israel.
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Zürich, Schweiz
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DO THESE SOUND FAMILIAR [...]YES THE ARE THE TALKING POINTS OF THE DNC AND MOVEON.ORG [...] THEY ARE ALSO PART OF HITLERS 25 POINTS
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simple things like 'nationalizing' corporations
wrong, that's not in the 25 points

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removing the guns from the people
wrong, that's not in the 25 points

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blame the jews (or the modern version 'the zionists')
partially true/wrong; there's no actual blaming in the 25 points, but one could argue that the jews are explicitely being excluded from benefits/targets of proposed actions against, and therefore this point might be valid.

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duty of the state(government) to PROVIDE for the people
wrong, that's not in the 25 points

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division of profits (redistribution of wealth)
parially true/wrong; point 14: "Wir fordern die Gewinnbeteiligung an Grossbetrieben" (we demand participation in profits of corporations). While there is the demand for participation on profits, it limits itself to corporations. It is important to note, that the term "Grossbetrieb" translates to "corporation", but was used for specific industrial behemoths.

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pro-unions
wrong, that's not in the 25 points

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free education
true. I might add that every other nation on earth has gotten around to this.

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pro-abortion
wrong, that's not in the 25 points

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anti-tobacco
wrong, that's not in the 25 points


One final thing: the 25 points were written in 1920, and the NSDAP had about 2000 followers. By 1928, after internal power struggles (which he won), Hitler wrote an amendment that negated points 11-18, and added that " gegenüber den verlogenen Auslegungen von seiten unserer Gegner [...] die NSDAP auf dem Boden des Privateigentums steht" (in spite of the false allegations of our lying opponents, the NSDAP sides with advocates of private property)

Feel free to cite specific points of the program if you think that I misrepresented them.
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:38 AM
 
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Iowa Tea Party group's sign links Obama, Hitler - Politics - Decision 2010 - msnbc.com

I think you'd have to be a deranged fool in order to make this comparison.
Were you OK with the vile depictions of Bush?

What about the assassination movie about Bush?

I think the left is too thin skinned to be in the game. It's alright for us to say or depict a republican any way we choose, but leave poor Obama alone.
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