Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-15-2010, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Cupertino, CA
860 posts, read 2,205,207 times
Reputation: 1195

Advertisements

Why do some many conservatives carry the mantle of freedom but then appear to favor goverment control of people's personal lives? Isn't this hypocritical? Laws against certain sex acts in certain states, even among married couples, favoring the outlaw of marijuana, even medicinal marijuana, advocating bans against gay marriage, and other laws that seem to violate a person's freedom in the name of morality and family values. Not to mention other garbage such as advocating the goverment place the Ten Commandments around and funding abstinence-only sex ed. The left seems more friendly to personal freedoms, but then the left also implies control over economic freedom. I can't take the GOP seriously until they kick their religious right base to the curb. What happened to allowing consenting adults to do as they please as long as they do not affect anyone else?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-15-2010, 08:23 PM
 
1,230 posts, read 1,039,471 times
Reputation: 476
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oberleutnant View Post
Why do some many conservatives carry the mantle of freedom but then appear to favor goverment control of people's personal lives? Isn't this hypocritical? Laws against certain sex acts in certain states, even among married couples, favoring the outlaw of marijuana, even medicinal marijuana, advocating bans against gay marriage, and other laws that seem to violate a person's freedom in the name of morality and family values. Not to mention other garbage such as advocating the goverment place the Ten Commandments around and funding abstinence-only sex ed. The left seems more friendly to personal freedoms, but then the left also implies control over economic freedom. I can't take the GOP seriously until they kick their religious right base to the curb. What happened to allowing consenting adults to do as they please as long as they do not affect anyone else?
Always my questions as well.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2010, 08:25 PM
 
20,948 posts, read 19,051,128 times
Reputation: 10270
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oberleutnant View Post
Why do some many conservatives carry the mantle of freedom but then appear to favor goverment control of people's personal lives? Isn't this hypocritical? Laws against certain sex acts in certain states, even among married couples, favoring the outlaw of marijuana, even medicinal marijuana, advocating bans against gay marriage, and other laws that seem to violate a person's freedom in the name of morality and family values. Not to mention other garbage such as advocating the goverment place the Ten Commandments around and funding abstinence-only sex ed. The left seems more friendly to personal freedoms, but then the left also implies control over economic freedom. I can't take the GOP seriously until they kick their religious right base to the curb. What happened to allowing consenting adults to do as they please as long as they do not affect anyone else?
There is no problem with adults doing as they wish in their own homes. But keep it in your home. Don't try to push the agenda by going public with it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2010, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Northeast Ohio
571 posts, read 943,597 times
Reputation: 443
This is why I vote for Democrats over Republicans, despite being a total Ayn Rand nerd & vocal libertarian. I would much rather spend time with a stereotypical Democrat than a stereotypical Republican. The Democrat wouldn't care that I am an atheist; but the Republican would tell me I would burn in hell forever because Jesus homosexuals baby-killers founding fathers were Christian, CONSTITUTION GLENN BECK COMMUNISTS and SARAH PALIN! DON'T EVER TALK TO ME AGAIN YOU PINKO *gets gun*.


Look up Barry Goldwater- we need more like him in Congress again. Ron Paul is great, but it seems like his own party silences his views because they go against the establishment.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2010, 08:26 PM
 
5,915 posts, read 4,813,075 times
Reputation: 1398
There are fiscal conservatives and social conservatives. You don't have to be both.
Not all members of the GOP are conservative.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2010, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago
15,586 posts, read 27,612,634 times
Reputation: 1761
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirdik View Post
...Not all members of the GOP are conservative.
Very true.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2010, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
20,293 posts, read 37,183,750 times
Reputation: 16397
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oberleutnant View Post
Why do some many conservatives carry the mantle of freedom but then appear to favor goverment control of people's personal lives? Isn't this hypocritical? Laws against certain sex acts in certain states, even among married couples, favoring the outlaw of marijuana, even medicinal marijuana, advocating bans against gay marriage, and other laws that seem to violate a person's freedom in the name of morality and family values. Not to mention other garbage such as advocating the goverment place the Ten Commandments around and funding abstinence-only sex ed. The left seems more friendly to personal freedoms, but then the left also implies control over economic freedom. I can't take the GOP seriously until they kick their religious right base to the curb. What happened to allowing consenting adults to do as they please as long as they do not affect anyone else?
You must be quite confused not to know that like the rest of Americans there is a majority of Democrats who are religious, oppose abortion, and same-sex marriage. For example, there are a lot of Catholic Democrats in the east Coast, and a lot of the black, hispanic, and Asian voters in CA opposed same-sex marriage with Proposition 8. In fact, a majority of Americans are religious. However, Obama won the election, didn't he? Blacks in general are religious, and vote mostly Democrat. A majority of the Hispanic vote in NY is Democrat, but most of the hispanics are religious.

I am a conservative (not a Republican nor a Democrat), and have no problems with anybody being a homosexual, bisexual, cross-dresser, whatever...as long as you don't push your views on me. Just keep your life private as much as I keep mine, and we will get along just fine.

Last edited by RayinAK; 07-15-2010 at 08:47 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2010, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Northeast Ohio
571 posts, read 943,597 times
Reputation: 443
Quote:
Originally Posted by RayinAK View Post
You must be quite confused not to know that like the rest of Americans, there is a majority of liberals who are religious, oppose abortion, and same-sex marriage.
I wouldn't call those liberals; more like "statists". Just as conservatives who support pro-choice and same-sex marriage are "libertarians".
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2010, 08:44 PM
 
1,230 posts, read 1,039,471 times
Reputation: 476
Quote:
Originally Posted by RayinAK View Post
You must be quite confused not to know that like the rest of Americans, there is a majority of liberals who are religious, oppose abortion, and same-sex marriage.
Then they are not really liberals, are they? You can call a shovel a spade, but that doesn't make it one. These labels are thrown around carelessly and nobody knows or understands the meanings very clearly any more. Those you describe above might call themselves Democrats or conservative Democrats, or be people who vote for Democrats some, or all, of the time, but they are not liberals.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2010, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Don't be a cry baby!
1,309 posts, read 1,362,561 times
Reputation: 617
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oberleutnant View Post
Why do some many conservatives carry the mantle of freedom but then appear to favor goverment control of people's personal lives? Isn't this hypocritical? Laws against certain sex acts in certain states, even among married couples, favoring the outlaw of marijuana, even medicinal marijuana, advocating bans against gay marriage, and other laws that seem to violate a person's freedom in the name of morality and family values. Not to mention other garbage such as advocating the goverment place the Ten Commandments around and funding abstinence-only sex ed. The left seems more friendly to personal freedoms, but then the left also implies control over economic freedom. I can't take the GOP seriously until they kick their religious right base to the curb. What happened to allowing consenting adults to do as they please as long as they do not affect anyone else?
I must be a blacksheep conservative because I agree with you. Freedom and limited government means live and let live, to me.
Quote:

Laws against certain sex acts in certain states, even among married couples, favoring the outlaw of marijuana, even medicinal marijuana, advocating bans against gay marriage, and other laws that seem to violate a person's freedom in the name of morality and family values. Not to mention other garbage such as advocating the goverment place the Ten Commandments around and funding abstinence-only sex ed
I'm a pro-choice conservative and I don't mean only the abortion issue but pro choice on almost everything. If I want to drive without a seat belt, why not. Well I can rant but the bottom line is I do agree.
Some will put me in a different catagory then a conservative but I think not, I'm conservative.
(All of these political names, ethnic names, religious names, etc... Only separate us even farther. Diversity is fine but it’s not what we should strive for, we should strive for unity with mutual acceptance at the core.[my happy thoughts of the day J])

Last edited by PCincorrect; 07-15-2010 at 08:57 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:44 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top