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Old 07-16-2010, 06:56 PM
 
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Commentators on the right are suggesting that the Administration's agenda will hurt our prosperity. Commentators on the left seem focused on fairness issues, including income and wealth disparities, and support the Administration's approach.

Granting that each side has valid points, where do you come down?

Would you be in favor of enforcing the outcome of more equal slices of a smaller pie that grows more slowly?

Or do you prefer policies that increase the vitality of the economy, with faster growth, but greater inequality of incomes and wealth?

I'm convinced there is a trade-off, but neither side presents the underlying issue as such.

What do you think?
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Old 07-16-2010, 06:59 PM
 
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I believe in helping the less fortunate and the poor but I dont believe in the government being able to take more from others to give it to others. Its not the Governments job to play Robin Hood. Social Justice is wrong. If you want to give, give freely. Its that simple.

Do some reading on Collective Salvation. It seems that a big black libertarian concept and Obama subscribes to that. A bit scary the more you look into what Collective Salvation is really about. If people like Wright had their way, there is no individual salvation. Its collective. In order for whites to have salvation, they have to give up what they have and give to others.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:01 PM
 
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I think that re-distribution of wealth is a bad idea.

No matter how the left wants to candy-coat what they really mean.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:07 PM
 
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Well, i guess the "commentators on the left" didn't learn from their parents the very first rule of survival in this world: Life Ain't Fair!
I guess their parents were remiss in this important lesson?

Dividing up the so-called "pie" might work for kindgergartners but in life there is always someone who will get a bigger slice. You know someone smarter, better looking, richer, thinner, wittier, the list goes on. . .
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:13 PM
 
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Economic growth should benefit more than just those with incomes over 250K. I guess that brands me as a socialist. Although conservatives profess that government should not lift a finger to help the down and out, the majority of Americans do not agree.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:13 PM
 
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Well, i guess the "commentators on the left" didn't learn from their parents the very first rule of survival in this world: Life Ain't Fair!
I guess their parents were remiss in this important lesson?

Dividing up the so-called "pie" might work for kindgergartners but in life there is always someone who will get a bigger slice. You know someone smarter, better looking, richer, thinner, wittier, the list goes on. . .
Exactly. Yes there are greedy people in the world and yes there is corruption in companies and activities that purposely lead to the stealing and misfortune of others. Those that do break laws should be dealt with. But the gov should not play Robin Hood.

I live in Connecticut. A state with some of the wealthiest people in the country. We have one of the largest gaps between rich and poor. And im not on the rich side. But I dont want hand outs. I dont want the government taking someone elses money and giving it to me because life isnt fair. I work hard for what I do have and thats just the way it has to be. Im not going to sit on my butt complaining that these people have this and I dont.

There are injustices in the country and there are racial bigots. But why is that an excuse for handouts? Why can some minorities succeed and others dont? Its a part of life. Realize life isnt fair and sometimes we fail. Get off your butt and try again. And for God's sake, start raising your kids right. Better parenting needs to be a focus in some communities. Not telling people they are victims and they deserve this that and this from the rich.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:15 PM
 
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Economic growth should benefit more than just those with incomes over 250K. I guess that brands me as a socialist. Although conservatives profess that government should not lift a finger to help the down and out, the majority of Americans do not agree.
Why should you have the right to benefit off of a companies success? Why should you have the right to what others earn by working hard and sure, sometimes getting lucky or being born into it? Its not yours. They are rich, you, I, and others are not. Thats just the way it is. Go out and try to succeed and realize youre not always going to be at the top of the ladder and not everyone is going to make it big.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:18 PM
 
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People who advance society need elbow room. Socialism and affirmative action stifles talent and drags down a nation as a whole.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:20 PM
 
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Fairness is vague, prosperity, on the contrary, is quite straight forward.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:26 PM
 
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Economic growth should benefit more than just those with incomes over 250K. I guess that brands me as a socialist. Although conservatives profess that government should not lift a finger to help the down and out, the majority of Americans do not agree.
So would you favor less prosperity and more fairness? I have to ask, because economic growth provides jobs and incomes, and those are distributed across the spectrum.

This is a separate question from whether the government should help "the down and out."
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