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Old 07-22-2010, 07:08 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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No, by any standards, he was never AWOL. Show me in his official National Guard record where he was.

If you want to be mad, be mad about our 42nd president who was an actual draft dodger.
Truthfully, I can respect someone who dodges the draft based on his beliefs (M.Ali for example) as long as they do not send anyone else to fight and profits from it.
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Other than Bush senior we have not had a president who served, in quite a while.

But Bush jr pretending to be military, wearing the jacket and all, is a little annoying. Dude you are not military, no matter if Daddy helped you get a couple plane rides.
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:35 PM
 
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You are not serious are you?

Let's hear it.

You are obviously suggesting, as Obama and the rest of the liberals do, that Obama is not responsible for anything he has done and that only George Bush (and perhaps Millard Filmore) are to blame.

Let's take a look-

1. The economy was fine with under 4% unemployment until the democratic congress (which controls spending) took control in 2006 elections.

2. It took the dems one and a half years to destroy the economy

3. Obama has perpetuated and "doubled down" these same disasterous socialist policies and has made the economy even worse.


Millard Filmore and Grover Cleveland are not to blame. Obama and the democrats are to blame. It is thier government and they have a super majority. They failed dismally.
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:21 PM
 
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Other than Bush senior we have not had a president who served, in quite a while.

But Bush jr pretending to be military, wearing the jacket and all, is a little annoying. Dude you are not military, no matter if Daddy helped you get a couple plane rides.
really? how about reagan, carter, ford, nixon......

the whole list is here;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...litary_service
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Old 07-22-2010, 09:34 PM
 
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Let's hear it.

You are obviously suggesting, as Obama and the rest of the liberals do, that Obama is not responsible for anything he has done and that only George Bush (and perhaps Millard Filmore) are to blame.

Let's take a look-

1. The economy was fine with under 4% unemployment until the democratic congress (which controls spending) took control in 2006 elections.

2. It took the dems one and a half years to destroy the economy

3. Obama has perpetuated and "doubled down" these same disasterous socialist policies and has made the economy even worse.


Millard Filmore and Grover Cleveland are not to blame. Obama and the democrats are to blame. It is thier government and they have a super majority. They failed dismally.
So what you are saying is that everything was fine under Bush? I understand you must be wealthy, work for haliburton or collecting money from the oil companies
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Old 07-22-2010, 09:35 PM
 
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really? how about reagan, carter, ford, nixon......

the whole list is here;

List of Presidents of the United States by military service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But none of them PRETENDED to have served sucessfully AND than pushed for an unnecessary war
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Bush was never "MIA."

Excerpt from the NY Times Article "Missing in Action"



"Another particularly credible witness is Leonard Walls, a retired Air Force colonel who was then a full-time pilot instructor at the base. "I was there pretty much every day," he said, adding: "I never saw him, and I was there continually from July 1972 to July 1974." Mr. Walls, who describes himself as nonpolitical, added, "If he had been there more than once, I would have seen him."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/08/op...08kristof.html

FOXNews.com - Timeline: Bush's Air National Guard Service - You Decide 2004

So where was he May 4, 1972 to November 1972 and other periods? I don't know many soldiers that could be missing for that time period and not end up in the brig. The only thing factual about this was that for some unknown reason he was never declared AWOL and put in the draft, gee I wonder why?

He volunteered to go to Vietnam, sure in his dreams.
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Old 07-24-2010, 11:47 AM
 
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Let's hear it.

You are obviously suggesting, as Obama and the rest of the liberals do, that Obama is not responsible for anything he has done and that only George Bush (and perhaps Millard Filmore) are to blame.

Let's take a look-

1. The economy was fine with under 4% unemployment until the democratic congress (which controls spending) took control in 2006 elections.

2. It took the dems one and a half years to destroy the economy

3. Obama has perpetuated and "doubled down" these same disasterous socialist policies and has made the economy even worse.


Millard Filmore and Grover Cleveland are not to blame. Obama and the democrats are to blame. It is thier government and they have a super majority. They failed dismally.

I guess that you are I also realize that you think that everything that is going on with the economy happened in two years also. What socialist policies are you referring to? Healthcare for those who cannot afford it? Or regulation of a banking/finnacial system that has gone wild? You must be well off or very misinformed on what socialism really consist of.
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Old 07-24-2010, 12:20 PM
 
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But none of them PRETENDED to have served sucessfully AND than pushed for an unnecessary war
You insult every man and women has ever served in the National Guard or Reserves with your hatred for anything Bush.

I hate to burst your bubble but, serving in the Guard IS conciderd being in the Military and served your country.

President Bush served and wore the uniform of the united States Military. AND earned an honorable discharge. Get over it.

I served in the regular Navy with many Reserves and Guardsmen. Some of the lost thier lives so you can belittle thier service.

You should, but I doubt you are, be ashamed for such assinine statements.
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Old 07-24-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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But none of them PRETENDED to have served sucessfully AND than pushed for an unnecessary war
until you have irrefutable proof that bush did not fully serve in the air national guard, and this has been gone over and over again from the time he first ran for governor of texas and NOTHING CREDIBLE has been found to refute what bush has claimed, then you have to accept the facts on record.

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You insult every man and women has ever served in the National Guard or Reserves with your hatred for anything Bush.

I hate to burst your bubble but, serving in the Guard IS conciderd being in the Military and served your country.

President Bush served and wore the uniform of the united States Military. AND earned an honorable discharge. Get over it.

I served in the regular Navy with many Reserves and Guardsmen. Some of the lost thier lives so you can belittle thier service.

You should, but I doubt you are, be ashamed for such assinine statements.
exactly.
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