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Old 07-20-2010, 11:06 AM
 
Location: 'Murica
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8. BRING BACK CORVEE LABOR

Require all youth from all backgrounds to spend one or two years serving the government. Many great public works materialized in this manner; examples include the Pyramids of Egypt and the maintenance of the Roman road system. As they would be forced to work, easily supervised, menial jobs would be in order. A small stipend, meals, and dormitory-style housing will also be provided. The consequence for refusing to perform this labor would be prison time or a $200,000 tax.
you know the pyramids we built by slaves, right?
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:09 AM
 
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you know the pyramids we built by slaves, right?
I read that by the OP and couldnt even think of a way to respond,

The proposal that EVERYONE be required to spend 2 years helping the government, they do seem to be suggesting that americans become slaves for 2 years, or go to jail.. Ooh, not those rich people though, those who can afford to pay the $200K tax to buy their way out of slavery..
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Texas
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None of the above.

CUT SPENDING!
Seems so simple doesn't it. I agree cut spending. That thought never seems to occur to the far left. I cannot wait until they get the bill for all this and see how they feel.
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:26 AM
 
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As purely insane as these ideas are… and they are very very very purely insane…

What the reader needs to keep in mind is, these are real ideas that the left has been talking about for a while. They really want this to happen to America.

Really.

However, there is one other really bad idea the left has been talking about. Confiscation of your 401K/IRAs. That is right. They want to take away your retirement plan. It is a HUGE amount of money and the plan being talked about works like this….

They get your 401k, and you get a promise of X dollars per month at retirement based on the amount they take from you. You get security because (they say) the promise is from the Government. They get your cash.

Really, that plan is out there and is being talked about by people inside the Bammer administration.
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:59 AM
 
Location: PA
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When someone believes the federal government has a revenue problem they either work for the government, the IRS or believe government is the solution to everything.
I believe most of America or at least the ones who OWN guns, work for a living and create grass roots movements we would repeal 90% of all the taxes and start over. Reduce government and its spending and the roles they deemed themselves GOD!

We have to much government controlling social and economic behavior and the only ones defending this idea of increasing government "revenue" are elitist, commies, socialists and neoconservatives none of which belong in the united states GOVERNMENT!
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Old 07-20-2010, 12:01 PM
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As purely insane as these ideas are… and they are very very very purely insane…

What the reader needs to keep in mind is, these are real ideas that the left has been talking about for a while. They really want this to happen to America.

Really.

However, there is one other really bad idea the left has been talking about. Confiscation of your 401K/IRAs. That is right. They want to take away your retirement plan. It is a HUGE amount of money and the plan being talked about works like this….

They get your 401k, and you get a promise of X dollars per month at retirement based on the amount they take from you. You get security because (they say) the promise is from the Government. They get your cash.

Really, that plan is out there and is being talked about by people inside the Bammer administration.

Link it.
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Old 07-20-2010, 12:04 PM
 
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Link it.
Would Obama, Dems Kill 401(k) Plans? - Capital Commerce (usnews.com)
http://federalism.typepad.com/crime_...-accounts.html
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Old 07-20-2010, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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Everyone but the OP seems to understand. Give the government 100% of everyone's wages, they'll find ways to confiscate your savings and property. They already tax the house you paid for, so you don't even get to keep what you've paid for now, unless you can pay part of the value to the government every year.

Government will not stop growing until it has either confiscated everything, or the citizens stop government.

Government proves this everyday (under both Parties) and still the Liberals support the scum in Washington crying out for more ways to appropriate the earnings and the property of the citizens. All supposedly for the good of "the poor" and "the disadvantaged"--but actually to increase government power.
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Old 07-20-2010, 12:26 PM
 
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To expand social programs to cover a larger part of the population, increased revenue is necessary. Here are some ways to raise it:

1. RAISE THE HIGHEST MARGINAL RATE

The highest marginal federal income tax rate in the United States, as of now, is 35%. This is what middle-class citizens of other countries pay. It could be raised to at least 55% for the richest 0.5% of taxpayers.

2. VALUE-ADDED TAX

A VAT could be applied to all goods except food and medicine. This VAT would vary with the good being sold; however, an average of 20% is reasonable.

3. INSTALL TOLL BOOTHS ON ALL INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS WHERE IT WOULD BE AFFORDABLE TO DO SO

Charging for access on all interstate highways should raise a fair amount of money. In addition, an executive order could be passed forbidding speed limits above 55 mph on any other road and requiring strict enforcement, perhaps by federal police if necessary.

4. REMOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY INCOME CEILING

The current social security income ceiling is $106,500. This would be removed, and all earnings would be subject to social security tax. However, the ceiling would stay in place for benefits. Any taxed income over the ceiling would be 25% allocated to helping the program stay solvent and 75% allocated to the general fund.

5. TAX ASSETS

Anybody owning over $250,000 in liquid assets, second homes, or vehicles would be required to pay a progressive tax (increasing with the amount of assets owned) on them each year to the central government. This would be a sort of "federal property tax".

6. TV LICENSE

Require the payment of a $250 annual license for every TV-owning household. The elderly, disabled, and unemployed would be exempt. Require the top 1% of earners to pay an additional $750.

7. RAISE THE GAS TAX

Raise the gas tax to keep gas and diesel at a fixed price of US$6 / gallon, rising with inflation every year. Use the income derived from the tax to fund public transportation, bikeways, and walking infrastructure.

8. BRING BACK CORVEE LABOR

Require all youth from all backgrounds to spend one or two years serving the government. Many great public works materialized in this manner; examples include the Pyramids of Egypt and the maintenance of the Roman road system. As they would be forced to work, easily supervised, menial jobs would be in order. A small stipend, meals, and dormitory-style housing will also be provided. The consequence for refusing to perform this labor would be prison time or a $200,000 tax.
If you really want to increase revenues do what JFK and RR did - lower tax Rates and get out of the way and the economy takes off like a rocket. However, I don't think Dems are as interested in raising revenues as they are in punishing success and achievement.
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Old 07-20-2010, 12:29 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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Get rid of the tax credits for children. If someone wants 10 kids, why should I pay?
I gotta agree with that.
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