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Old 07-31-2010, 12:51 PM
 
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This thread is showing "Manipulation and control" of WHAT?
This thread is showing the attempted manipulation by race-baiters. The truth is here:
Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics

 
Old 07-31-2010, 12:52 PM
 
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More important than Duke, since he's most likely rejected by the public as a loon; is the Tea Party-Palin dumb ass incorporated affiliation. That's a far bigger issue for them, imo.
 
Old 07-31-2010, 12:57 PM
 
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So you're posting completely unsubstantiated claims. Got it.


Again... the same action has been taken by the tea party regarding David Duke as Obama and the Dems have taken regarding the NBPP and Farrakhan. Go figure.
I'm posting the claims made by David Duke. Why hasn't the tea party demanded that Duke substantiate his claims? You do realize that in political "movements" what people say, whether substantiated or not, makes a difference. Duke's followers will believe what he says. Duke's followers will continue to join the Tea Party movement. Non-Tea-Party members will believe Duke. At what point do the white nationalist take it over?

You know, the Tea Party supporters/members can sit back smugly and console themselves with the argument that "Obama and the Dems haven't publicly rejected NBPP and Farrakhan so we don't have to publicly reject David Duke and the stormfronters"............all the while their political "movement" is being taken from them by those very people. Go figure....how could they, as a political movement which, according to them, is not a white racist movement, be so "innocent ......unless the Tea Party is mostly made up of people with white racist's beliefs?
 
Old 07-31-2010, 12:58 PM
 
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More important than Duke, since he's most likely rejected by the public as a loon; is the Tea Party-Palin dumb ass incorporated affiliation. That's a far bigger issue for them, imo.
Well, maybe you should start a thread about that. We're reallly trying to discuss Duke and the TEA PARTY here, not Palin and the Tea Party.

thanks.
 
Old 07-31-2010, 12:58 PM
 
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Really? Where's the poll results?

Oh wait... they're here:
Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics


Only conjecture on your part. Read the Gallup results.

the demographics in your link only described, age, political party and such, no where was there a section that said what percentage are racist. I don't think they are all racist but it would be foolish to think they do not have a good deal of racist in the party.

the duke issue is huge if you want to admit it or not. the top members of the TP should be on a publicity campaign making sure america knows the TP does not support duke or his ideas. silence only gives the impression you agree. this is not an issue to be silent on if you are heartily against it. if more people in the TP insisted they disavow duke it would of been done by now so obviously not enough people care to do so. so should I assume they are only a "bit racist"

if they were more mainstream or inclusive you would see a lot more members of color.
 
Old 07-31-2010, 01:03 PM
 
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This thread is showing the attempted manipulation by race-baiters. The truth is here:
Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics
WE are TALKING ABOUT DAIVD DUKE'S endorsement of the Tea Party. Very simple really. We're also talking about why the Tea Party refuses to reject the endorsement by David Duke.

We are not discussing any polls about the "demographics" of the tea party. WE ARE DISCUSSING WHY THE TEA PARTY WILL NOT PUBLICLY REJECT DAVID DUKE'S ENDORSEMENT.

Do you think it might be possible for you to stay on topic?
 
Old 07-31-2010, 01:05 PM
 
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the demographics in your link only described, age, political party and such, no where was there a section that said what percentage are racist. I don't think they are all racist but it would be foolish to think they do not have a good deal of racist in the party.

the duke issue is huge if you want to admit it or not. the top members of the TP should be on a publicity campaign making sure america knows the TP does not support duke or his ideas. silence only gives the impression you agree. this is not an issue to be silent on if you are heartily against it. if more people in the TP insisted they disavow duke it would of been done by now so obviously not enough people care to do so. so should I assume they are only a "bit racist"

if they were more mainstream or inclusive you would see a lot more members of color.
Indeed. Well said.
 
Old 07-31-2010, 01:05 PM
 
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the demographics in your link only described, age, political party and such, no where was there a section that said what percentage are racist. I don't think they are all racist but it would be foolish to think they do not have a good deal of racist in the party.

the duke issue is huge if you want to admit it or not. the top members of the TP should be on a publicity campaign making sure america knows the TP does not support duke or his ideas. silence only gives the impression you agree. this is not an issue to be silent on if you are heartily against it. if more people in the TP insisted they disavow duke it would of been done by now so obviously not enough people care to do so. so should I assume they are only a "bit racist"

if they were more mainstream or inclusive you would see a lot more members of color.

HUGE? LOL! If that were so, Chris Mathews legs would be tingling!
 
Old 07-31-2010, 01:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by hothulamaui View Post
the demographics in your link only described, age, political party and such, no where was there a section that said what percentage are racist. I don't think they are all racist but it would be foolish to think they do not have a good deal of racist in the party.

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the duke issue is huge
if you want to admit it or not. the top members of the TP should be on a publicity campaign making sure america knows the TP does not support duke or his ideas. silence only gives the impression you agree. this is not an issue to be silent on if you are heartily against it. if more people in the TP insisted they disavow duke it would of been done by now so obviously not enough people care to do so. so should I assume they are only a "bit racist"

if they were more mainstream or inclusive you would see a lot more members of color.
The duke issue is not that huge, most people I know don't even know duke or could care less what he says. But if people like you keep yammering it will become more of an issue than it is!
 
Old 07-31-2010, 01:11 PM
 
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I'm posting the claims made by David Duke.
Which neither he nor you have substantiated. Might as well post claims made by people who insiste they've been abducted by extraterrestrials.

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Duke's followers will believe what he says. Duke's followers will continue to join the Tea Party movement.
Just like the NBPP's and Farrakhan's followers will believe what they say, and continue to support Obama and the Democrats, no?

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At what point do the white nationalist take it over?
Given the proven mainstream membership of the tea parties, I'd say never.
Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics

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You know, the Tea Party supporters/members can sit back smugly and console themselves with the argument that "Obama and the Dems haven't publicly rejected NBPP and Farrakhan so we don't have to publicly reject David Duke and the stormfronters"
All four extremists are being treated the same. Your problem with that is?

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............all the while their political "movement" is being taken from them by those very people.
You're basing that conjecture on what? What one crackpot says? Seriously?

Read Gallup's poll results:
Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics
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