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Old 07-26-2010, 06:53 AM
 
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I am for doing away with the electoral college as long as its done by the constitution if not then it should be illegal.
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Old 07-26-2010, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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My questions are.
As it stands are the electors in the electoral college legally bound to vote who won their state?
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Old 07-26-2010, 07:00 AM
 
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1. NEVER use World Net Daily as a source. Kills your posting credibility.
Had it been a liberal publication, would it be credible then?
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Old 07-26-2010, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Some may be shocked to read about this attempt at skirting the Constitution that was written by those oft maligned founders. When I started reading this article I surely didn't think of it being this part. Without an amendment these people are trying to change the part of the Constitution that I never thought would happen, because I look at amendment as the only legal way to change the Constitution.

Guess what part of the Constitution goes next!
"The idea is that Massachusetts will instruct its electors in the Electoral College to vote for the candidate receiving the majority of presidential election votes nationally, regardless of how the state's own voters cast their ballots," Corsi explained."

Why would they do this? Gives a whole new meaning to fly-over country; entire states could be by-pass and considered irrelevant.
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Old 07-26-2010, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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My questions are.
As it stands are the electors in the electoral college legally bound to vote who won their state?
The answer is no.If you read my post earlier I would like to do what they say in congress and have them sticken from the record. Visiting another forum it was brought to my attention that it is up to the states to determine how they want to dispense their electors.That can be done winner take all{48 states} and proportion of vote {2 states} and there is nothing unconstitutional about total popular vote.
Even though I hate the idea but always defending state rights I can not be a hypocrite and have to support it. And leaves me with the feeling you get with hearing nails scraped on a chalk board. So from making comments that were not correct I give myself 2 of these and if you feel inclined you can give me one also
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Old 07-26-2010, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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I would like to see a challenge to the electoral results in 2012 for those states that have surrendered their electoral votes to a national plurality and taken to SCOTUS with my preferred results being an invalidation of that states participation in that election year electoral results.

And...

The WND link shows Texas as having introduced a bill to... unexplained results. Texas legislature adjourned in 2009 with no modification to the state's electoral distribution (as far as I know). The Texas legislature does not convene again until January 2011, and for only 140 days.
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Old 07-26-2010, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Some may be shocked to read about this attempt at skirting the Constitution that was written by those oft maligned founders. When I started reading this article I surely didn't think of it being this part. Without an amendment these people are trying to change the part of the Constitution that I never thought would happen, because I look at amendment as the only legal way to change the Constitution.

Guess what part of the Constitution goes next!
How is this "skirting the Constitution?" Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the US Constitution states:

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Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct [emphasis added], a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.
If State Legislatures decided that they would select Electors to the Electoral College based upon the weather, or any other manner, they have that constitutional authority. There is nothing in the US Constitution that says how State Legislatures must determine their Electors. In fact, it was not until 1824 before States decided to have the very first popular vote for President. So if State Legislatures wanted, they could completely abolish the popular vote for President altogether.

Personally, I think it is a stupid idea. The purpose of each State Legislature choosing their own Electors for the Electoral College was so that each State could be represented when determining a President. If State Legislatures start making their determination based upon the national popular vote results, then they are attempting to represent the nation and not their individual State.

So while I think this is a moronic move on the part of these extremely liberal States, it is certainly not unconstitutional.

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Old 07-26-2010, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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So much for credible sources to start the thread. WND, Infowars, MM, all in the same boat, not worth the server they are put on.
So you didn't read the article but are trying to say it is not true, possible, or soon we will see the Constitution leave us. I think that you need to at least see what the topic of the article is so you can defend the movement that is about to destroy that part of the Constitution. It seems to me that Democrats just won't be bound by that document and will continue to try to skirt it with their end runs.

Read the article and then lets discuss the topic of it.
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Old 07-26-2010, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Go World Nut Daily. I love that link because it has Robert Gibbs laughing his butt off at WND's "reporters".

There is never a story too insane to publish.

If you follow them and believe it, do the world a favor and get some meds.
If you can continue your left handed deflection without knowing what the subject of that article is, I don't think you are likely to take part in the saving of the Union and its Constitution.

I think you need to know about this. I first heard about the topic of this article on a local CBS station. Of course, you don't support them either.
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Old 07-26-2010, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Hopefully the racist stuff the forefathers wrote. I would personally like to be a 5/5ths a human being instead of the 3/5ths George Washington felt I was.
You don't really know your nether region from grapefruit about why that part of the Constitution was put there. Blaming George Washington is the thing that gave you away.

The article is not really long and you didn't even look at it. You really hate our Constitution don't you. You will love the article I just posted minutes ago. It is written by a black woman. Can you at least read it because of that.

Actually I wonder how long you libs can continue to remain uninformed.
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