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Old 07-27-2010, 07:29 AM
 
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This is how I make my kids into Conservatives - and it works the first time I do it. I tell them they can earn an allowance with some chores. If it's Conservative day when they finish the job they keep the money they earned. On Liberal day however when they finish the job I take the money back and tell them it must be given instead to the ones who didn't help with the chores.
Powerful lesson.

 
Old 07-27-2010, 07:33 AM
 
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No. You told us what Republicans will not do.
Choosing to not do something harmful is in fact a deliberate action.
 
Old 07-27-2010, 07:36 AM
 
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No. You told us what Republicans will not do. Who cares about the Democrats? Your concern for them in this discussion is admirable and quite telling, but clearly off topic.

The question wasn't how do the parties differ in their approach to the poor, in fact, the question and thread topic have nothing to do with the Democrats at all.

It's pretty simple.

What do you believe is the Republican plan to help the poor?
Do you want to just make it easy and tell us what you want to hear?

My god...I didn't know a person could ignore 10 pages of answers and still claim no one has answered the original question like this.
 
Old 07-27-2010, 07:42 AM
 
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Google: No Results found for "Republicans plan to help poor"

Interesting.

What do you believe is the Republican plan to help the poor?
I'm pretty sure the extent of it is to urge the poor to "just say no."
 
Old 07-27-2010, 07:45 AM
 
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Something to think about from Black and Right:

"As long as black people attend the lousy public schools in the hood managed by Democrats and teacher’s unions, listen to rap music created by Hollywood and New York liberals that steals the souls of their young listeners, have an overwhelming out-of-wedlock birthrate that makes a government social worker drool, there will be no solutions offered from people like Julian Bond.
That makes him the Democrats’ puppet, parrot, and poverty pimp… all in one."
http://www.black-and-right.com/2005/...-poverty-pimp/
 
Old 07-27-2010, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Choosing to not do something harmful is in fact a deliberate action.
True. You make a good point. Still, you've deferred from the directness of the question, surely you have a belief of what the Republican plan is to help the poor, or perhaps you don't because -

a. You haven't pondered it directly.

b. You don't recall it as a platform with a published indication one way or another.

c. Something I haven't guessed and/or, you haven't shared.

Otherwise, the answer is fairly straightforward, if it's the truth it is what it is after-all.
 
Old 07-27-2010, 07:52 AM
 
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Something to think about from Black and Right:

"As long as black people attend the lousy public schools in the hood managed by Democrats and teacher’s unions, listen to rap music created by Hollywood and New York liberals that steals the souls of their young listeners, have an overwhelming out-of-wedlock birthrate that makes a government social worker drool, there will be no solutions offered from people like Julian Bond.
That makes him the Democrats’ puppet, parrot, and poverty pimp… all in one."
http://www.black-and-right.com/2005/...-poverty-pimp/

Rather than answer the thread topic, you prefer to defer, and then offer us your thoughts on the Democrats and black people?

This is very odd behavior.

Perhaps you're unaware of the racial makeup of the word Poor?
 
Old 07-27-2010, 08:10 AM
 
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Google: No Results found for "Republicans plan to help poor"

Interesting.

What do you believe is the Republican plan to help the poor?
So every six months or so, our elected representatives in the congress and senate need to write new social programs into law and spend more tax payer money to "help the poor"?

What more do we need to do anyway? We have been fighting the war against poverty since the 1940s.

We could give the poor free access to a free education, like public K-12 schools.

We could offer grants specifically to those schools with a high precentage of poor children.
Title I, Part A Program

We could have government grants to a free college education.

Alcohol National Research Service Awards for Research Training (http://www.fedmoney.org/grants/93272-00.htm - broken link) - $10,889,000 grants
Biological Sciences - $576,690,000 grants
Biomedical Research and Research Training - $1,846,352,000 grants
Business and International Education Projects - $4,400,000 grants
Centers of Excellence - $11,495,000 grants
Criminal Justice Research and Development_Graduate Research Fellowships - $100,000 grants
Drug Abuse and Addiction Research Programs - $35,976,000 grants
Education and Human Resources - $796,690,000 grants
Engineering Grants - $580,920,000 grants
Food and Agricultural Sciences National Needs Graduate Fellowship Grants - $3,527,000 grants
Geriatric Training for Physicians, Dentists and Behavioral/Mental Health Professionals
Graduate Assistance in Areas of National Need - $30,067,000 grants
Greater Research Opportunities Fellowship Program - $1,486,000 grants
Javits Fellowships - $9,699,000 grants
Medical Library Assistance (http://www.fedmoney.org/grants/93879-00.htm - broken link) - $65,177,000 grants
Mental Health National Research Service Awards for Research Training - $57,258,000 grants
Morris K. Udall Fellowship Program - $48,000 grants
Morris K. Udall Native American Congressional Internship Program - $170,000 grants
Morris K. Udall Scholarship Program - $400,000 grants
National Institute on Disability and Rehabilitation Research - $106,705,000 grants
National Resource Centers and Fellowships Program for Language and Area or Language and International Studies - $57,240,000 grants
Office of Research and Development Consolidated Research/Training - $40,000,000 grants
Promotion of the Humanities_Fellowships and Stipends - $7,879,000 grants
Promotion of the Humanities_Research - $4,813,486,000 grants
Quentin N. Burdick Program for Rural Interdisciplinary Training (http://www.fedmoney.org/grants/93192-00.htm - broken link) - $6,066,000 grants
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Science To Achieve Results (STAR) Fellowship Program - $1,800,000 grants
Social, Behavioral, and Economic Sciences - $199,910,000 grants
Woodrow Wilson Center Fellowships in the Humanities and Social Sciences - $1,355,000 grants


We could provide loans.

Contraception and Infertility Research Loan Repayment Program - $1,000,000 grants
Drug Abuse and Addiction Research Programs - $35,976,000 grants
Federal Direct Student Loans - $27,748,000,000 loans
Federal Family Education Loans - $93,406,000,000 loans
Federal Perkins Loan Program_Federal Capital Contributions (http://www.fedmoney.org/grants/l84038-00.htm - broken link)
Grants to States for Loan Repayment Program - $6,300,000 grants
Health Professions Student Loans, Including Primary Care Loans/Loans for Disadvantaged Students
Intramural Research Training Award - $49,428,000 grants
Loan Repayment Program for General Research - $5,286,000 grants
Marine Fisheries Initiative (http://www.fedmoney.org/grants/l11433-00.htm - broken link) - $950,000 grants
Medical Library Assistance (http://www.fedmoney.org/grants/l93879-00.htm - broken link) - $65,177,000 grants
Nurse Faculty Loan Program (NFLP) - $4,618,152,000 loans
Nursing Student Loans
Perkins Loan Cancellations - $65,471,000 grants
State Maritime Schools - $10,611,000 other funding / assistance
Vision Research - $541,980,000 grants
We could provide the poor with free health care like Medicaid.
We could provide grants for the poor to help pay for their energy bills.
About.com: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ocs/liheap/
We could provide the poor with low interest loans to purchase homes.
About.com: http://www.rurdev.usda.gov/rhs/
About.com: http://www.hud.gov/renting/phprog.cfm

We could provide the poor with free food, like Food Stamps and WIC.

We could provide all Americans with the education and tools they need to succeed in life, and provide safety nets like those above, to help assist those Americans who need a little more aid and assistance.

Or we could act like nothing is being done to "help the poor" and start ignorant threads like this one.
 
Old 07-27-2010, 08:18 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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This is how I make my kids into Conservatives - and it works the first time I do it. I tell them they can earn an allowance with some chores. If it's Conservative day when they finish the job they keep the money they earned. On Liberal day however when they finish the job I take the money back and tell them it must be given instead to the ones who didn't help with the chores.
Poor kids. Kids deserve better. There are a lot of holes in that laughable lesson. They'll likely fill in the blanks themselves when they become older and more enlightened. They'll then be Democrats.
 
Old 07-27-2010, 08:18 AM
 
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So every six months or so, our elected representatives in the congress and senate need to write new social programs into law and spend more tax payer money to "help the poor"?

What more do we need to do anyway? We have been fighting the war against poverty since the 1940s.

We could provide all Americans with the education and tools they need to succeed in life, and provide safety nets like those above, to help assist those Americans who need a little more aid and assistance.

Or we could act like nothing is being done to "help the poor" and start ignorant threads like this one.
I'm not certain what more could be done.

What's the plan? Clearly you believe it isn't working, yet you point the partisan finger clueless to the blueprint and proclaim the topic for discussion ignorant. Telling.
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