Republicans Plan To Increase Deficits By Repealing Health Care Reform

[rbohm]

Originally Posted by jojajn

Why didn't the republican congress do all of this when they were the majority?

perhaps it wasnt a priority, perhaps they were working something, but they knew that the democrats would block them, who knows.

[jojajn]

Originally Posted by rbohm

perhaps it wasnt a priority, perhaps they were working something, but they knew that the democrats would block them, who knows.

They are blaming the democrats for their inaction?

[rbohm]

Originally Posted by jojajn

They are blaming the democrats for their inaction?

who said they were blaming democrats for not doing health care? i said maybe the knew that they didnt have the needed votes to get anything passed. it doesnt mean they are blaming democrats.

[marcopolo]

Our health care system has massive problems, none of which are addressed by the Health Care Reform. The new law creates new problems, further divorces the costs of service from the customer, takes away many things that were working like Health Savings Accounts, and is a total accounting farce (CBO analyses included.)

Forget Republican this and Democrat that--the law needs to be scrapped and the system needs to be reformed. Food stamps do not allow people to eat prime rib every night, and government housing isn't too plush. Why aren't we developing the food stamp or housing project equivalent of health care for those who are not valuable enough to the rest of society to be able to afford their own health care? We did not build government grocery stores because some were hungry; we did not nationalize home-building because some lacked shelter. Why should we totally disrupt any semblance of a private market for health care because some lack that?

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by jojajn

Why didn't the republican congress do all of this when they were the majority?

Simple.

Because the Democrats played the blocking game.

[Danno3314]

Originally Posted by jojajn

Republicans don't have a clue!

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If Republicans attempt to repeal the health care bill, they'll run headlong into the Congressional Budget Office, which found that the health care bill reduces deficits by over $100 billion over its first 10 years. Repeal that, and Republicans will have to raise taxes or cut spending to keep from driving up the deficit they decry.
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CBO itself says that the final health care law, as enacted and which is taking shape today, will decrease the deficit by $138 billion, as compared to what would have happened if Congress had done nothing. Now that it's the law of the land, CBO would find that a straight repeal would increase the deficit by about the same $138 billion. Replacing it with the GOP's alternative health care bill wouldn't come close to making up the difference.

Republicans Plan To Increase Deficits By Repealing Health Care Reform | TPMDC

Here we go...................Another Bush era!

What the CBO has come up with is based on the assumption that the sources for funding UHC, will happen exactly as planned....like being able to cut 500 billion dollars out of Medicare over the next ten years....sounds like an idea but, is it going to actually happen. They claim there's enough waste and fraud that can be eliminated to do it but, the CBO doesn't verify whether that claim is possible or take into consideration what UHC will cost if it's not possible. What it does take into consideration is all the penalties individuals and companies will be having to pay because they can't afford health insurance or afford to offer it to their employees.....which is basically nothing more than another way of saying ''raising taxes'' to fund UHC and end up with that projected deficit reductions.

Skip all that though....what about all the people that are going to be losing their current insurance that's provided to them by their employer now, once the plan goes into full effect. You're going to continue insurance rates increase....probably even see increases accelerate because of the additional mandates the law will be imposing on insurers...all of which is just going to make employers eventually stop providing insurance for their employees because of the cost and just pay the penalties instead....which is already much lower than what they have to shell out in insurance premiums.

Let's not forget the estimate that it will reduce the deficit over the next ten years is because we're going to start paying for it now....at the start of the ten year period but, the part of UHC that will actually cost money to provide, doesn't start for another 4 years and that's still only partially....it's another 6 years before the law is fully in effect.

Let's forget all that though too.....since when have projected estimates the government has made for anything, come even remotely close to what the anticipated it would. There's a lot of things that can happen over the next ten years that can not be figured into that estimate....and those things are all going to cost money not save any money.

It's not going to end up with 100 billion left over ten years from now that can be used to reduce the deficit....anybody that actually is willing to believe that baloney you can send to me, I have a bridge I can sell them....tell them I'll sell it to them cheap too and with what they'll be able to charge in tolls over the next ten years, they're actually going to make 100 billion if they buy it...lol.

Worrying about the 100 billion deficit reduction it's suppose to provide over the next ten years....which it's not going to do any way....is going to be the least of our problems if that law is allowed to go into effect.

If people in this country really want to make sure everyone gets healthcare, get rid of all the federal and state mandares that have been imposed on insurers for the last dozen years or so....which most people aren't even aware has happened and is actually what's caused all the rate increases in the first place. You'll see rates begin do drop and continue to drop as insurers compete for customers. Then for all the people that don't have insurance because they can't afford it or can't get accepted, the government will just have to provide it for them and we'll all have to bite the bullet and pay the higher taxes to do it....it's going to cost less in the long run without trying to reinvent the wheel and messing up the entire system, like they've been doing all along with the mandates the keep imposing on carriers.