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View Poll Results: Is the Southern Poverty Law Center a hate group?
Yes 52 45.61%
No 62 54.39%
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Old 08-01-2010, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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How about black parents who teach their kids all white people are evil, etc.
They should also be prosecuted for child abuse.
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Old 08-01-2010, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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i wouldn't call them a "hate" group

but they are like the "Boy who cried wolf". they accuse people of racism over nothing, and i don't take them seriously.

take the league of the south, for example. they are weird, true, but are listed as a "Hate Group" simply because the people who run the SLPC have an ideological disagreement with them.
So a group that exposes "White Nationalism" and the idea that blacks are not and can not be classified as American Citizens with those constitutional rights are not a hate group in your mind??!!

White nationalism:
White nationalism is a political ideology which advocates a racial definition of national identity for white people, and a separate all-white nation state. White separatism and white supremacism are subgroups within white nationalism.[1] The former seek a separate white nation state, while the latter add ideas from social Darwinism and National Socialism to their ideology.[1] The vast majority of white nationalists are separatists, and only a smaller number are supremacists.[1] Both schools of thought generally avoid the term supremacy, saying it has negative connotations.[2]
White nationalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


League of the South Core Beliefs Statement
The League of the South believes that Southern culture is distinct from, and in opposition to, the corrupt mainstream American culture.


Is structured upon the Biblical notion of hierarchy. In short, a recognition of the natural societal order of superiors and subordinates where Christian charity (Curse of Ham ring any bells?)

Restricts the right to vote solely to those who are recognized as citizens of one of the member States of the confederation.


Any group of people that work for the elevation of one race of people and the establishment of an inferior position for another group by it's definition is a hate group.
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Old 08-01-2010, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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Then we'll have to disagree.

No child was ever born hating. In the words from the song in South Pacific, "...You have to be carefully taught".

I consider teaching a child racial hatred to be equal to teaching them to lie and steal. It is a sad situation, since most of the bigots I have known (and I grew up in the Jim Crow South) are cowards who need a group to look down on in an attempt to make themselves look better in their own eyes. They don't have the guts to deal with people on an individual basis, so they hide behind a curtain of hatred for a class or group.

And they had to be taught their prejudice.
Had to rep you for this reply, thanks for a response of decency, dignity , and intelligence.
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Old 08-01-2010, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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How about black parents who teach their kids all white people are evil, etc.
They are scum too. Why would you suppose we would say anything to the contrary?
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Hades
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How about black parents who teach their kids all white people are evil, etc.
I never said anything about black parents or white parents in my post.

But since you brought it up...


I have worked with WHITE 8th grade students who could not spell or write a full sentence. These kiddo's parents thought everything was a-ok and that their kid should be allowed to wear their gang insignia to school. All the while, quite oblivious and uncaring of the fact that their 14 year old was illiterate.

I have worked in an inner city almost entirely BLACK school where I saw kids being mobbed over NOTHING. Truly. Nothing.

I grew up going to a highly elite prep school where everyone was guaranteed entry to college. Sadly, a shocking, small percentage of students of this majority white, highly upper crust elite institution ended up offing themselves.


Race and class issues in America are a complete cluster f*ck. So the modern racism is largely uninformed and left dumbfounded when they actually see people "of color" doing legitimate things.

Despite our "melting pot" attitude, the national psyche still holds a deep and decisive strain of being anti-minority.

Chip away. Chip away.
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Old 08-02-2010, 04:43 AM
 
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Any group of people that work for the elevation of one race of people and the establishment of an inferior position for another group by it's definition is a hate group.
wait, isn't that the purpose of the NAACP? work for the advancement of "colored peoples" ? i take it you consider them a hate group? or i'm sure you'll come back with some logical acrobatics to justify why they are OK.

the quotes you provided, crazy as they may be, say nothing about race. even chopped up and taken out of context as you presented them, they still only talk about some weird, nonspecific Christian hierarchy, and make no mention of race. here is their statement on race:

We believe that Christianity and social order require that all people, regardless of race, must be equal before the law. We do not believe that the law should be used to persecute, oppress, or favour any race or class.

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Old 08-02-2010, 05:33 AM
 
Location: New Kensington (Parnassus) ,Pa
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They are scum too. Why would you suppose we would say anything to the contrary?
Because I know this is taught in some black homes, you know, the white conspiricy against blacks.
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Old 08-02-2010, 05:43 AM
 
Location: New Kensington (Parnassus) ,Pa
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I work with 3 year olds who are generally color blind but trust me, as kids get older they reveal any "racist" training they receive at home.

For any racist parents out there: when you dump your kids off at child care or school they get OUR viewpoint. If you plan on raising a racist hillbilly kid then don't bring them to us. STAY HOME! We don't really want to deal with you either if you've got weird racist issues.
In bold please, do you know any hillbilly racist black kids?
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Old 08-02-2010, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Hades
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Here is what you said: In bold please, do you know any hillbilly racist black kids?

You don't have to be white to be hillbilly ok?

Now, I am done talking with you about that sentence.
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Old 08-02-2010, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Because I know this is taught in some black homes, you know, the white conspiricy against blacks.
okay--maybe there is even a conspiracy to teach blacks to be so retarded that they can't even spell "conspiracy"--but how does that answer my question?

I can't stand some of the militantly pro-affirmative action crowd, and I also can't stand some of your crowd, because you have managed to be equally obnoxious, obtuse, and ignorant.
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