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Old 02-21-2010, 04:13 PM
 
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Whatever do we need to reform health care in this country it is well under control as evidenced by these NEWS articles.

In California, Exhibit A in Debate on Insurance - NYTimes.com

States Consider Medicaid Cuts as Use Grows - NYTimes.com
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Old 02-24-2010, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Asheville
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Actually we do need health care reform. Not sure what insurance you have but it must be a good company. Most health insurance companies are ripping us off.

But the good thing about Obama's health care plan is you can keep the insurance you have if you like it.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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"No one should suffer / die because they do not have medical care..."
must be prefaced by "No one should be compelled to labor for another, so that ...."

Slavery is never a solution to the ills of mankind.

Voluntary charity is a blessing
Compulsory charity is a curse

Medicine will never go down in cost, when Americans have to buy permission (prescriptions) from government licensed people in order to buy their medicine from government licensed people, at greatly inflated prices, from government licensed providers. Which now require a mountain of administrative paperwork and staff to track disbursements under private and public insurance programs.

The next point - WHAT drove up the costs for hiring medical care and buying medicine?
[1] Government -- licensing and criminalization of the practice by unlicensed
[2] Government -- litigation abuse driving up malpractice premiums
[3] Government -- taxation, passed on to the consumer
[4] Government -- inflation

What's your answer to lower the cost for medical care?
[A] Increase government influence over medicine, or
[b] Eliminate government influence over medicine
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:18 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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But the good thing about Obama's health care plan is you can keep the insurance you have if you like it.
Not if your insurance company goes away.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:18 PM
 
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where are the jobs that people elected Obama to create?
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:49 PM
 
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where are the jobs that people elected Obama to create?
Well he is trying but the "NO" sayers are kinda holding him up, if you haven't noticed. Afterward, he'll snap his fingers and it will all happen instantly.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:09 AM
 
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where are the jobs that people elected Obama to create?
If he'd drop his obsession with health care he might have some success at it.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:27 AM
 
Location: PA
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
"No one should suffer / die because they do not have medical care..."
must be prefaced by "No one should be compelled to labor for another, so that ...."

Slavery is never a solution to the ills of mankind.

Voluntary charity is a blessing
Compulsory charity is a curse

Medicine will never go down in cost, when Americans have to buy permission (prescriptions) from government licensed people in order to buy their medicine from government licensed people, at greatly inflated prices, from government licensed providers. Which now require a mountain of administrative paperwork and staff to track disbursements under private and public insurance programs.

The next point - WHAT drove up the costs for hiring medical care and buying medicine?
[1] Government -- licensing and criminalization of the practice by unlicensed
[2] Government -- litigation abuse driving up malpractice premiums
[3] Government -- taxation, passed on to the consumer
[4] Government -- inflation

What's your answer to lower the cost for medical care?
[A] Increase government influence over medicine, or
[b] Eliminate government influence over medicine
If would could only get this read in congress and or maybe the cover sheet of that 2,000 page health coverage bill Obama is probably presenting right now.
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Old 07-27-2010, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Asheville
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Default They should go away if...

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Not if your insurance company goes away.
Why would they go away? Well maybe they will if they are no longer allowed to rip Americans off by over charging rates and denying us coverage when we need it. If that is the way your insurance company works than I hope they go away.

If your insurance company is honest and pays for the coverage you are paying them to cover than they will not go away under the new health care reform. Read the Bill.
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Old 07-27-2010, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The really sad part is the people who are most vocal about not wanting health care reform, are the ones who already use it. Which is sadly ironic. Like this guy, who is on public assistance and uses disability for his numerous health problems.

I kind of wish these people could get what they wanted, and see how fast the smirk changes to horror.

Just more partisan nuttery.
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