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Old 07-28-2010, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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I am wondering why there aren't dual batteries in the Volt -- 1 which powers the car during the 40 mile range, and a 2nd which recharges while the car is running off of the 1st battery.

With all the electronics in cars today, why not a simple meter/switch that activates baterry 2 when it senses the first battery has gone under X% charge? No need for a gas tank.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:58 PM
 
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BTW the car has a 380 mile range so the OP is just spinning. Oh, and about the price, with an experimental car like this you lease and not buy because you don't know what the long term reliability of the fuel cell is because it is a brand new technology. Still, GM is saying you can lease a Volt for $350 a month for 36 months and that's not bad for a brand new car.
The car has a 380 mile range ON GASOLINE.. So the OP isnt spinning..

And only a fool leases a vehicle.. Its the most expensive way to "own" a vehicle.. Especially considering the down payments and the buyout fees involved at the end.. Even GM is admitting they will be losing money though on the Volt lease, and doing it just to get people in the door..

More taxpayer subsidy at work..
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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They actually procured the batteries.

Do you not know how procurement works in companies like GM?

Edit: Okay, sorry. I'm being snarky and you don't deserve it. I admit to getting short with some of the absurd arguments being made against this car in this thread. I swear, if Obama had even the most tenuous relationship with somebody who came up with the cure for carcinoma, there are posters in this thread who would start defending colon cancer.

The procurement department had to have batteries ready by November 2010. US companies could not deliver, the Korean company could. That makes them, by definition, better.

GM exec on Korean battery maker LG: 'They were ready' for Volt | MLive.com
From the link you posted, it looks like GM picked the Korean company because it was "ready." It also said that the Korean company did things which were "different" (not "better").
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:40 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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And only a fool leases a vehicle.. Its the most expensive way to "own" a vehicle.
It depends on your goal. If you want a new car every 2-3 years and you have a good income then leasing is the cheapest way to go. Now, if you're happy to have the same car for much longer then you're better off buying a car and driving it until its dead.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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So does Ford have a better idea?
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:45 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Ford seems to be taking a wait and see approach which could be very smart or could put them way behind depending on if the fuel cell technology GM is making ends up being important in the future. Ford seems to be dabbling in a few low tech hybrids but so far hasn't shown much interest in electrics or in fuel cells.
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:41 AM
 
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And only a fool leases a vehicle.. Its the most expensive way to "own" a vehicle..
Not if you know what you're doing.
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Old 07-29-2010, 05:57 AM
 
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When the Volt FAILS.... I be will this be their next top seller?



Finally, a vehicle to serve the Amish market. The Amish population is growing at a rapid rate, so maybe they are on to something. Hey, a lot of Amish work in RV plants.
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Old 07-29-2010, 06:25 AM
 
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It depends on your goal. If you want a new car every 2-3 years and you have a good income then leasing is the cheapest way to go. Now, if you're happy to have the same car for much longer then you're better off buying a car and driving it until its dead.
Wrong.. Being able to afford to lease the car is not the same as making it cheapest.. Lets look at THIS example..

If you lease at $2500 down, + $350 a month for 3 years = $15,100 + any other fees etc...

In 3 years you have.. NOTHING..

If you buy the car, you end up with something worth $30K..

You'd have to be pretty math challenged to not understand that $30K is greater than nothing..

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Not if you know what you're doing.
There isnt ONE economic advisor who suggests that you lease vs own..
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:30 AM
 
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The car has a 380 mile range ON GASOLINE.. So the OP isnt spinning..
OP opened this thread saying the car couldn't be used for family vacations because of range limitations.

This is obviously spinning.
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