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Old 07-30-2010, 10:59 PM
 
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You are correct but the key thing you say is they were adopted by Christians. Has any other religion done that?
yep, islam. altho not presented the same way as in the gospels, the qur'an does contain all ten commandments .
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:09 PM
 
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yep, islam. altho not presented the same way as in the gospels, the qur'an does contain all ten commandments .
Interesting. I am going to have to look that up.
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:24 PM
 
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the 10 commandments are suppose to be moral laws
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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the 10 commandments are suppose to be moral laws
I have to think that murder and stealing are just moral laws.
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Old 07-31-2010, 12:57 AM
 
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I would imagine murder and theft was frowned upon even by the Neanderthals. Some things are universal and have nothing to do with Commandments.
I would imagine the Neanderthals lived by the code of the strong ruled and the weak died or were killed, not by any rules. It wasn't until people started living in communities that rules were needed to stop total anarchy It was for the good of the whole community to live in a semblance of harmony that rules or commandants are needed. Societies fall apart without them.
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Old 07-31-2010, 08:12 AM
 
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Can you murder, can you steal? And all the rest of those commandments have meaning with other crimes even if you can't see it until it is explained.
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janelle, can you explain please ? as i said before i'm not trying to be a ball-breaker but am honestly curious what connection you see between the ten commandments and US law.
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Old 07-31-2010, 01:51 PM
 
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A set of questions for the believers out there….


1) The Code of Hammurabi was written in 1790 BC. The 10 Commandments were written around 1300 BC. It is in the Code of Hammurabi that we first see concepts like an “eye for eye, a tooth for a tooth.” It is also in the Code of Hammurabi that we see basic moral precepts like do not kill, steal, or lie. It’s just a possibility that Jewish establishment borrowed some ideas from Hammurabi *wink* *wink*

How is it then that the Ten Commandments are the basis for our legal system?

On our Supreme Court building, we do see Moses…right next Hammurabi and Menes, an Egyptian pharaoh. Does mean our nation is founded upon Christian Values, as well those of the Sumarian Relgion and Egyptian Polytheism?



2) If the Ten Commandments are Christian Values, then why was Christ himself ambivalent of the Ten Commandments?

3) The essence of our government is: civil rights, representative democracy, federalism, and checks and balances. Those are the things our founding fathers were striving for.

Please show me where in the Ten Commandments or anywhere else in the Bible those things are mentioned.

# of times “democracy” is mentioned in the Bible: 0

# of times “civil rights” is mentioned in the Bible: 0

# of times “federalism” is mentioned in the Bible: 0

# of times “checks and balances” is mentioned in the Bible: 0

Yet words like slaughter, kill, hell and slavery are mentioned hundreds of times in the Bible. Very odd that a book that gave rise to our government never mentions the basic ideas of our government. Meanwhile, there are traditions from antiquity that do mention these things—namely the Ancient Romans and Ancient Greeks. It’s not exactly a coincidence that both Supreme Court and House resemble Roman architecture—and not the Temple of David.

Of course, not that I expect any believers to address these points or anything...
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Old 07-31-2010, 01:53 PM
 
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I would imagine the Neanderthals lived by the code of the strong ruled and the weak died or were killed, not by any rules. It wasn't until people started living in communities that rules were needed to stop total anarchy It was for the good of the whole community to live in a semblance of harmony that rules or commandants are needed. Societies fall apart without them.
Yes, and communities and grand civilizations existed that far predate christianity.
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Old 07-31-2010, 01:59 PM
 
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Can you murder, can you steal? And all the rest of those commandments have meaning with other crimes even if you can't see it until it is explained.

Also, you can worship anyway you want because the founding fathers were concerned about a state religion so they put in freedom of religion which means you can worship as you want or not to worship, It does not say freedom not to have religion it says freedom to allow any and all religions.
If you believe the Bible, you'd know the 10 Commandments were around before Christianity even existed.
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Old 08-01-2010, 12:17 AM
 
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If you believe the Bible, you'd know the 10 Commandments were around before Christianity even existed.
The Ten Commandments, is a list of religious and moral imperatives that, according to the Hebrew Bible, were spoken by God to the people of Israel from the mountain referred to as Mount Sinai or Horeb, and later authored by God and given to or written by Moses in the form of two stone tablets. They are recognized as a moral foundation in Judaism and Christianity, and their substance also figures in Islam. (Ten Commandments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
christianity was called christianity after christ died.
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