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If Christine Todd Whitman were really serious about promoting jobs in the energy industry, she would be talking about wind and other renewable energy resources, not nuclear power. Her July 9 op-ed, co-written with Florida State Rep. Juan C. Zapata, overstated the benefits of nuclear power and mentioned none of its drawbacks.
Whitman claims that constructing new nuclear plants has the potential to create "as many as 70,000 jobs," but how long would that take? According to Whitman's own figures, building one new reactor would produce as many as 2,400 construction jobs, and, once built, would employ 800 workers. To generate those 70,000 jobs — 75 percent of them temporary — the industry would have to build 22 new reactors. Given the lack of a trained labor force, constraints on the availability of key manufacturing components, and Wall Street's reluctance to finance them, building 22 reactors would take at least two decades to accomplish even under the rosiest scenario.
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07-31-2010, 06:50 AM
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Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by RenaudFR
If Christine Todd Whitman were really serious about promoting jobs in the energy industry, she would be talking about wind and other renewable energy resources, not nuclear power. Her July 9 op-ed, co-written with Florida State Rep. Juan C. Zapata, overstated the benefits of nuclear power and mentioned none of its drawbacks.
Whitman claims that constructing new nuclear plants has the potential to create "as many as 70,000 jobs," but how long would that take? According to Whitman's own figures, building one new reactor would produce as many as 2,400 construction jobs, and, once built, would employ 800 workers. To generate those 70,000 jobs — 75 percent of them temporary — the industry would have to build 22 new reactors. Given the lack of a trained labor force, constraints on the availability of key manufacturing components, and Wall Street's reluctance to finance them, building 22 reactors would take at least two decades to accomplish even under the rosiest scenario.
Negin: Renewable energy would create more jobs than nuclear power
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Yawn...
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07-31-2010, 07:06 AM
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You must understand Spain and Germany don't have the same demographics than the US.
In the US the "green" jobs don't destroy jobs, they create jobs because the US adds many people to its population each year (about 3 million each year).So in the US wind farms and solar plants are used to add jobs and power to meet the demand.
In Germany and Spain these "green" jobs destroy jobs in the carbon-fossil energy (coal) because they replace them.
So in the US it's a good idea to develop these jobs because they create jobs,
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07-31-2010, 07:10 AM
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Sounds like a whole lot of bunk.
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07-31-2010, 07:12 AM
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Let's do both. The truth is we could easily get 60%+ of our electricity from nuclear power which is safe, clean, and affordable plus it can run 24/7/365 while only taking up a small footprint area. France does it, Japan does it, we can do it too. We need to stop burning oil and coal for electricity and instead switch to nuclear power. Sure, there is room for wind and solar as well but those will never compete on cost with nuclear so we'll let the market find the places and applications where those work.
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07-31-2010, 07:23 AM
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Develop Wind, solar, geothermal and nuclear power would be a good thing to avoid oil and if the demand for coal doesn't grow the US could export its coal to China (this country needs coal so much)
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07-31-2010, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RenaudFR
Develop Wind, solar, geothermal and nuclear power would be a good thing to avoid oil and if the demand for coal doesn't grow the US could export its coal to China (this country needs coal so much)
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America has been working on all of the above for a long time now.
We are still on coal, oil etc. because it is still the best bang for the buck.
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07-31-2010, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RenaudFR
Develop Wind, solar, geothermal and nuclear power would be a good thing to avoid oil and if the demand for coal doesn't grow the US could export its coal to China (this country needs coal so much)
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first, wind power is not the magic bullet that people think it is. the wind turbines are fugly, dont power as many homes as environmentalists suggest, and they are maintenance intensive. they also tend to kill avian wildlife.
solar is an excellent choice as it can be used to create hot water and electricity, and is still in its infancy. there is even way to paint solar panels on to a house or car. once they get the conversion rate for solar panels up to the 30-50% range, we will have viable electrical generation from solar panels, but they will need to be installed individually as solar farms are inefficient, and nearly as ugly as wind turbines.
geothermal and nuclear are also excellent options. as for sending coal to china, pffft, rather let us liquefy coal and make a fuel out of it to power our automobiles while we convert over to pure electric cars, after we have rebuilt the electrical grid to handle 250 million electric cars.
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07-31-2010, 11:34 AM
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At what cost? You cant compare the number of jobs without comparing the cost to create that job.
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Originally Posted by RenaudFR
Develop Wind, solar, geothermal and nuclear power would be a good thing to avoid oil and if the demand for coal doesn't grow the US could export its coal to China (this country needs coal so much)
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I priced geothermal for my home, was supposed to install it 2 years ago when I bought the new house. Total cost was over $30,000...
Tell me when it becomes more economical...
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07-31-2010, 05:45 PM
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I find that hard to believe. There used to be a nuke plant near me. The plant itself doesn't employ more than about 200, but every 18 months there was an outage and many times that number descended on the area, often working 16 hours a day of paid overtime. The restaurant and hotel business went gangbusters during the outages. The tax money it paid generated many more school and city jobs. I don't thing the town fully recovered a decade after it closed.
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