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I never said he was targeted, maybe you need to reread.
And you dont have to believe about the way people are brought into the Chicago Gangs, but, you will remain ignorant to the truth.
yes they do what they have to do to be in, which is either be blessed in, which is what the Vice Lords and the Black P Stones do. Which being blessed in is done on a friday at 3pm, while facing the east, the palms are placed up and the body prays over the person to bless them in.
For the other gangs, the initiation is standing there while others beat your body down with punches. The person is not allowed to defend or hit back.
These are the things that they have to do to get in, and they do it.
Someone must really be down to take such a road,
to be a part of something like that. I believe you.
I think the root to decreasing gangs is to figure out why the kids are joining in the first place and then offer another option.
I know one poster said they do it for protection. There needs to be another way. I don't know if that's something that can be handled on a federal level though. It seems like something that would have to be local. The people of the community would have to make it known that the police don't respond to their calls.
These are also the types of the things the NAACP should be worried about instead of greeting cards
The problem is in a lot of these areas the community have made it known over and over again, but, the local government don't care. they would rather use their resources to protect the higher class neighborhoods.
I agree there needs to be another way, for me personally, I work on educating those that are already in gangs, about the reasons the gangs originally formed. I educate them about where the road will lead them if they don't change their ways.
I believe that changing the ways gangs operate is easier then eliminating them fully.
I never said he was targeted, maybe you need to reread.
And you dont have to believe about the way people are brought into the Chicago Gangs, but, you will remain ignorant to the truth.
yes they do what they have to do to be in, which is either be blessed in, which is what the Vice Lords and the Black P Stones do. Which being blessed in is done on a friday at 3pm, while facing the east, the palms are placed up and the body prays over the person to bless them in.
For the other gangs, the initiation is standing there while others beat your body down with punches. The person is not allowed to defend or hit back.
These are the things that they have to do to get in, and they do it.
You are correct, you weren't the poster that made the comment. I apologize for that.
But as far as the other about initiations, you have painted a "nice picture" and that is far, far from the truth. And that doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out but none the less.
It is sad, that society has this hug-a thug mentality and therefore allows this behavior to be bred. For years and years, there have been fatherless homes, poverty, ghettos, white trash etc.......it is only in the past 6/7 years that this gang bully attitude and lifestyle has taken over and created the havoc it has.
The problem is in a lot of these areas the community have made it known over and over again, but, the local government don't care. they would rather use their resources to protect the higher class neighborhoods.
I agree there needs to be another way, for me personally, I work on educating those that are already in gangs, about the reasons the gangs originally formed. I educate them about where the road will lead them if they don't change their ways.
I believe that changing the ways gangs operate is easier then eliminating them fully.
Then it's time to get some new local government. I've found that people I come across in these situations are usually so tired of being tired they just duck their heads and hope they make it to tomorrow.
You are correct, you weren't the poster that made the comment. I apologize for that.
But as far as the other about initiations, you have painted a "nice picture" and that is far, far from the truth. And that doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out but none the less.
It is sad, that society has this hug-a thug mentality and therefore allows this behavior to be bred. For years and years, there have been fatherless homes, poverty, ghettos, white trash etc.......it is only in the past 6/7 years that this gang bully attitude and lifestyle has taken over and created the havoc it has.
The problem is in a lot of these areas the community have made it known over and over again, but, the local government don't care. they would rather use their resources to protect the higher class neighborhoods.
I agree there needs to be another way, for me personally, I work on educating those that are already in gangs, about the reasons the gangs originally formed. I educate them about where the road will lead them if they don't change their ways.
I believe that changing the ways gangs operate is easier then eliminating them fully.
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Originally Posted by rhawkins74
Unfortunately when people join many of the chicago gangs it isnt about being alone. It is about "respect", "protection", money and power.
Well you have got your work ahead of you.
Good for you to get involved. That's what those kids need.
Someone to show them the way. I have been coaching 35 years
and the kids know I love them, and when I correct them, they
know why.
A large part of today's society has this mentality......
They don't want to hold the thugs responsible for their behavior.
i haven't seen this.
I've seen people try to find the reasons behind their behavior and i feel that's needed because how can you prevent something if you don't know what caused it
You are correct, you weren't the poster that made the comment. I apologize for that.
But as far as the other about initiations, you have painted a "nice picture" and that is far, far from the truth. And that doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out but none the less.
It is sad, that society has this hug-a thug mentality and therefore allows this behavior to be bred. For years and years, there have been fatherless homes, poverty, ghettos, white trash etc.......it is only in the past 6/7 years that this gang bully attitude and lifestyle has taken over and created the havoc it has.
No the picture I painted about the initiations is exactly the truth. what you see on the media and in the movies is typically based off of the west coast gangs such as the bloods and the crips. The way the chicago gangs operate are far different. Part of the reasons for this, is one, take example the Vice Lords. The Vice Lords literature is based off of Islam. A Vice Lord is not allowed to eat pork, they are supposed to pray the Afatia over their meals. they are to pray to mecca every friday at 3pm. The Black P Stones are the same way.
In many cities gang violence was a lot worse in the 90's then it is now. I think what it is, is that now more of the gangs have spread to other areas and cities, so more people are seeing them and feeling the effects, so they think the problem is more recent.
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